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Episode 4 · 2 years ago

The All-Time Favourite Film

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In this episode we cover two great existential questions:

  1. What is your all-time favourite film?
  2. Why?

The format is simple, Gary, Sol, Tom and Chris each take their turn describing their favourite film, before the floor is opened with comments from the others.

The films discussed:

Gary: Seven Samurai

Sol: Fanny och Alexander and Videodrome

Tom: A Clockwork Orange

Chris: Stalker and Last Year at Marienbad

You're listening to talking images. I'm Chris and today's episode will cover one of the great existential questions of our time. What is your all time favorite film and why? and Luckily I'm not alone to take on this heavy questions. I'm going once again by Gary Palm and Saul. I had to be honest. They're going into this podcast. I thought I would be talking about Talker by Andre Their coos key, which has been my goal to favorite film for years, but that won't be the film. I will be with something today. It unfortunately decreased in value on rewatch and instead I will be presenting last year at Marion Bob. Hopefully my co host won't be as confused. So, guys, let's just bring our listener up to speed. Introduce yourself and tell us what your favorite film is. Hi, am gearing from the People's Republic of Virginia in the United States. My favorite film is a Kura Kurus Hour with Seven Samurai and I'm happy and excited to talk about this movie today. Hi, it's Tom here from England. My favorite film is Stanley Cubic's hugely controversial dystopian sci fi film a clock where orange I I'm so from Australia. The film so I'm going to be talking about today video drawing from David Cronenberg and in my book, been spending Alexander, because I'm in a bit of a blind at the moment where I'm actually sure which one is my favorite film. Thank you everyone. And if you out there yet, you listener, told me how to drag our feet through some concoc to build up. You're wrong. You're dying right into it. Well, my favorite film may not have the most great forward narrative into the history this podcast. Are Us. So what we'll do is make this its possible. We'll go around the circle, starting with Tom then Gary, then Saul and finally myself, and we'll simply does tell you why we love our favorite film and then we'll just alp of the floor for some questions in comments and will start with Gary. I'm very excited to talk about seven Samurai. I thought I might be preaching to the converted among film buffs, but I found that many of my compatriots have avoided it because it is a very long film. It's two hundred and seven minutes. I've seen it many times and it feels to me more like a hundred and seven minutes. I watched it again this week just to refresh and collect my thoughts, and it was just as really to me as the first time. I just found myself smiling as I watched it. Let me start with the basic plot. A small farming village is bedeviled by bandits. They come every year after the harvest. They steal the villagers food and their women. So the villagers have decided they've had an enough. They decide to hire some Samurai to guard them, but they have no money. So their wise old sage suggests that they go find Hungry Samurai. So they first secure the services of combine, who is played by Takashi Shimura. He's one of kurrasaws favorites and he was the lead in another great chrisow film, Ikiro. He embodies the Samurai Code of selflessness and he's really a towering figure as the leader. He threw his force of will basically recruits another five Samurai, and the first hour or so of the film is really a leisurely pace. GIVES US time to meet and know that the different Samurai and several of the farmers. The Seventh Samurai is to Shiro Mafu name and he is basically the center of the film. He Tags along with the group and eventually joins them, and he's an irrepressible scamp. He's comic relief and he's an important bridge between the Samurai and the farmers. thematically, his presence explores and explains the relationship...

...between the Samurai and the farmer class. So why is this film my favorite? Well, it's really just a combination of technical brilliant cinematography, it's a thrilling adventure, great score and the editing. To me, it's basically a perfect film. Kurisow is known as one of the greatest film editors and to me that's what makes this film so watchable. Despite the length, he uses a lot of wipes to impart energy. There are many long scenes in the first part, but after the intermission the cuts get shorter and shorter. The final battle in this movie in a driving rain and mud is just stunning, with many shots only lasting a second or two. A couple small things that really appealed to my sensibility. They use a couple devices the there's a map that they used to set their defenses. They have a moat, they put up barriers and they use the they show the map and then they show the places actually where they're doing these things. I like that. And another thing was that they they had a chart where they marked off bandit numbers as they are killed. It started off with insurmountable odds, basically seven Samurai against forty or so bandits, and I just like the device of seeing them x off the ones as they start to even up the odds. And I'm going to end with a quote that I found from the film critic Kenneth Turran. He says that curuss our proceeds like a master chef allowing his ingredients to simmer and become tastier, tastier and tastier still. A bit embarrassed is that I haven't seen seventh on right and maybe for dealers of years, and I think it speaks to its power as a tremendous parts in a major this is tremendous work. Is that I still remember so much about it. There's so many of the scenes that are edged into my mind, like the subservient and simply obsessed way that if you this character rules out, is she the bands the street trying to prove that he is indeed, as I'm Ryan, can join them. There are just so many, many immisions from the films, of many actions by the characters in the film. It has burned into my mind and I think that through the shows how brilliant in the film was made. I'm among those film goers who haven't checked out seven Samurai yet, which is one of those things where it's well, maybe my film buff license should be revoked. Is Because of the length, which is not really a great excuse, but always find with really long films, especially if they in a foreign language, it's really hard to actually sit down and watch them unless you know it's something that you could really be interested in, and Samurai films is not really an area that I've really got into much in film. Do like other stuff that I've see it from Car Sara, I do like I live in fear from one thousand nine hundred and fifty five. That's a really good film. Liked his dreams. Actually like Yo Jean Boy, which is a Samurai films. I guess it's a bit of a contradiction in there. Yeah, I know it's one of those films that I should see, one of those films that I do have to see. At some point in my life, but it's just never come to it yet. Maybe it will this year. Well, this do it. I mean anst leaving goes. I'm talking about some sum right. I realized how long it's been since I thought that is really want to watch it again and no, I will. Students, maybe we can even set by a separate podcast for it does to give you that extra excuse. But unlike so many other classic three for our movies, I mean this feel, really feel so incredibly short. It is an action adventory in just its finest sense. I'm also a huge fan of Seventh Samurai. Think...

Garry and Chris put it nicely when they say that it's a long film, but it goes by at such a pace, even though the action doesn't really get going for perhaps the first hour. So you just become so invested in these characters and it's a great story of the Underdoga a few against many, rallying together for a righteous course, and it is one of the pinnacles of the Samurai Genre, which is perhaps wide as a story that has been adapted so many times throughout history of cinema by other cultures putting their own spin on the classic Japanese tail of the Seventh Samurai. It's actually a really interesting point on that you mentioned of being really has a talent's been done a lot because it's like the bengesificent seven. I've never seen that, even though it's a classic s film, because I've always like or I should see the Seventh Samurai first, but then that's three hours long. So I've never seen them with deficit seven either, which is again another EG hole in my movie viewing career. I did seven really do all the candle to seventh summer? I don't. One thing that I think is we've mentioned is also a books life is heavily influenced by Seventh Samurai. It follows same template to this storyline, but it obviously adapted for a children's audience. No idea about that. I always thought a bug's life was a copy of the movie ants, of which I've actually seen neither of them. So it's really interesting to learn learn something new every day. Is this the point we realize that the light thing is actually have that, which also brings things a bit full circle, because Crusso of course did do takes for adaptations in a summer ice. I think in the films like throwing a blood because I actually haven't seen those either. Actually seen a Kurosaur films, which is, I know, again quite shameful, but our yes, it's something I'ven't really explored much. Japanese Samurai films are and I haven't seen ran either, which is also going to be one of Krosaur's top five films. came it rather is fantastic as well as it's din a masterpiece one. I know the most shameful thing actually own all the corrs or films, because I'm a big film collector. Actually got upwards of ninezero films on DVD, Blur A, VHS, etc. So I do have random blue. I've Got Seven Samurai and BLU ray of God's arm a hero somewhere. So all the big films that haven't seen actually on. But that's the same for all the directors which I've just never got an around you. But I just still love collecting films, so I've got access to them if I want them. I'm sure I will eventually somewhere along my journey. All there's those giving it the stern's Muri podcast every car. So let's bring the conversation on to the next the host and next, favorite film taken away down. So my favorite film is the hugely controversial Dystopian Sci fi by Stanley Kubrick, a clockquere orange, and this is a story about a violent gang leader with a passion for classical music and it's based on the novel by Anthony Burgess. I'm a big fan of the the Tagline, which kind of sums up what the film is about, which is being the adventures of a young man whose principal interests are rape, ultra violence and Beethoven. That, for me, in a nutshell, tells the potential audience if it's a film that they are going to be interested in, and for me it is certainly one that I will be interested in. So Malcolm mcdowal star was in this film as Alex De Large, and he's a nasty, repulsive character. Yet through his twisted humor that we exposed to throughout the narration and the horrific experimental brainwashing that he endures when yourthorities capture him, Kubrick comes close to making us feel sorry for...

Alex by the end, which I think is quite an impressive feat. Now, a clockquerk orange was banned shortly after its released in Britain, the reason being the Stanley Kubrick came aware of acts of copy cut violence that were taking place and he was fearful of this association between the Real Life Crimes and film that he had labored so long upon. So he actually pulled the film from distribution and it remained banned in this country until two thousand which was a year after the director's death, and it was then re release. And at this point I was a young teenager and I stumbled upon the film when staying around at a friend's house for a sleepover. At the time, we weren't aware that what we were watching was unsuitable for our eyes, but it had a huge impact on my viewing habits, and this is something that I mentioned briefly in our first episode how we got into film, the fact that this film had been banned. I suppose it was Kubaku who pulled it himself, but the fact that it had been deemed unsuitable for my eyes by someone else made me all the more interested to watch it and find out more about it, and this kind of sparked my viewing habits wherein I wanted to see films that had been banned or had controversial issues surrounding them. Now. Part of why I love this film is how beautifully it shot. Stanley Kubic started out his career as a photography and this builds into all of his films as he improves throughout his career. He's got a real keen eye for cinematography and he also uses very playful music schemes and in some of his films, particularly in clockwork orange, the use of classical music with such graphic violence makes for a number of frighteningly memorable scenes. Kubica also boldly used as the title Song from singing in the rain in one of the most graphic and traumatic scenes in a clock where orange, perhaps tarnishing one of Hollywood's most uplifting musicals in the process, because once you've witnessed this debauchery, the perhaps never hear the song in the same way again now. At the time, a clockquork orange received four Oscar nominations for best picture, Die Director, writing and editing at the one thousand nine hundred seventy two awards. Cubic came away empty handed and he never received a best Director Academy Awards, losing out to the French connection at the one thousand nine hundred seventy two awards. But anyway, that explains P part of why I love a clock we're coming so much, and I know that give my co host enjoy the film, perhaps not as much as I do, but they have an appreciation for it. So we happy to hear about what they want to say about the film. Clock were orange was my favorite film as well for many, many, many years. I think I've seen it more than any other film as now adult. It's phenomenal in every way, especially the visual style, which is simply I can make it simultaneously beautiful with this distressing. It's surreal, it's protest. It does that opening scene, the way the mannequins and then this time using every single thing. It's incredible. It's just so well put together. And one point you didn't bring up, and I'm not really want to spoil the film as well, but there's just so much going on there, including the film's circular largic which, yeah, we should's probably wouldn't spoil that. Why I also love a clockwork orange.

In fact that was my previous favorite film. I could almost but seven, Samurai, one a and clockwork orange one be. It's something that really appeals to me. Is To me, the overarching theme is that you really can't change human nature and in the hospital the prime minister comes to visit him and basically they're just going to push it under the rug. Sort of reminds me of something going on in a certain country where I live, with the coronavirus and the way that are politicians are handling that. Even though I haven't seen the seven Samurai yet, and you're all going to keep going on about that, I've seen clock O carange maybe five or six times over the years. It's a film that, like Tom I got into it a very early age, and not as early as time. I would have been maybe fifteen, sixteen even team when I sat down to watch it. I just remember watching yet I remember really fully feeling, remember really feeling the thrill of the characters diving around at night, getting up to Miss Jeff. Really felt invested in what Alex was doing, which is a bit odd because what he's doing with all the ultra violence is really wrong. I really felt for the whole scenes of driving out in the night together. And now I'm much older than Alex's characters in the film. So it's interesting to watch on that perspective, but I just find it always a really overwhelming assault on the senses, which is really what makes a lot of my favorite films favorite films is really great music us it can there. That's already been mentioned, especially in the opening credits with those flashes of different colors for the different title cards. Pretty like watching that opening part with the lights off and the colors just overwhelming your face, really get you set up for this world that you're about to be put into. The semi futuristic setting. And actually what I love so much about that is the first time I watched a clockwork orange didn't realize it'll set in the future because everything is so gradual different changes. It's not a lot different to what life is now, which I think is a more realistic look at the future. Is Not going to be like things whizzing around your head all the time, as it's going to be the small, subtle changes. And of course of the smallest of the subtle changes is the jugation of Russian language into the film, which is something which bur just had in his original novel because he saw the future as being at the point where the Soviet Union and the United States would combine, because that's how saw. They are cold wars going off and it's a very interesting film and I've always got quite a lot out of it. As gone up and down in my esteem a bit over times. There was a point, maybe about fifteen years ago, where I would have said I was my favorite film. Actually would have said that for about three or four years. It's always had a big impact to me and going back to what's been said before by my cohost, the fact that he's such a horrible person yet we become so invested in him and we do actually feel sympathy for him is of everything that he goes through. And it's got one of those endings we are sort of looking in it go well as it a happy ending. It's an unhappy ending. Not sure. It's definitely one of those films that leaves you thinking. It's also just plastically hilarious. This is just a bizar absurd film. There's nothing here that can really truly be related to our own world. Everything is blown up, every everything's disturbed one way or another. It's just this kind of hyper absurd Andy. It's also things that makes it's one of those the most specially then moderful film, since in the Mystory, in my mind might just also mentioned because Tom brought it up at the film's Academy Award Nominations. Does seem a bit ridiculous looking back all these years on that it lost out to a film like the French connection,...

...but I guess we're have to put ourselves back in the shoes, and this is going back almost fifty years ago now. Yes, a French connection was a really big film the time because all those chase scenes getting on off the train very new, whereas these days it's very by the book as a clockwork. Orange is actually a film that has stood the test of time and it's a film that these days probably would have won best picture on a different environment. As becar's always interesting look at but I guess, from my point of view also look at it, that it's actually lucky in off that the film was popular to get that picture nomination, to get that best director nomination. I mean two thousand and one a space odyssey was a nominated for best picture when they got a nomination for best director, and Palls of glory that didn't get nominated. Spartacus one for Oscars but didn't get a best picture Oscar nomination, a break in journals. Just one of those directors where, Oh, he's perceived these days is much different. So how the whole Oscar thing has treated him. But at least didn't work comparitive Oscar. For the special effects for G thousdand want to Space Odyssey. I think that's nice. Also, though, I would say that, if anything, a clockwork or and she gets better with age, because it just moves furder and further away from any resemblance a reality. Like the S esthetics on their futuristic story. It just toes into this alternative, timeless reality that will just continue to be a stranger but also more gripping image, the expression and destine to keep growing and keep becoming more and more exorbing as time goes on. And completely agree there with Chris about a clockwork O engine improving with age. It's rarely to rewatch film so much, and that perhaps stems from the fact that's I like to watch films for escapism. I love to be captivated by a story and just forget about the world and just inst into this film that someone has created. And, as soul mentioned earlier, at Copper Orange. It's just so overwhelming, it's provocative and it grabs you straight away. It's so easy to become a missed in this incredible world, and that, I think, is why I keep returning to it time and time again, because I know that each time I put it on I'm in for one how of a ride. All Right, Fan passing conclusion, I think let's move on to Saul and his personal but lumba between two great films. When we decided to have this topic about favorite films, I thoughts would be really interesting because this is something that I've never been solid on. My favorite films have always changed a lot over the years, and I first really got into film and registered with IMDB in two thousand and one. My favorite films think we're probably the Matrix and American beauty, which were very recent films. Looking at films these days, my favorite film has changed a lot over than as I said before, it was a clockwork orange at one point. It's gone through being other things like two thousand and one, a space odyssey, the last picture showing a window at ago. I think I've called all these my favorite film at some point, but since about two thousand and eight two thousand and nine, I had been putting fanny and Alexanderp in the top spot. Is My favorite film, something that I had come to question Schin over the last say four years. Had come to watch the drone from David Cronenberg quite regularly. I was watching it like once every year, once every two years. Got to the point where, for well, in my favorite film actually isn't funny of the Alexander. Maybe it's a video drum. Up until last month actually had a video dramas my number one and then last month I really watch funny Alexander and I went war Camm should not sure. Maybe I do prefer funny Alexander. Oh, funny Alexander is a really interesting film because it's my child's point of view.

It's about a boy called Alexander and his dad passes away. He was an actor and it was in a film production of Hamlet. Is Watching the scene where hamlet's father is ghosts to hamlet and tells him that he has to avenge his death. And then Alexander's own father dies. Father's replaced by the Bishop, seems like a really cruel guy. He doesn't seem to know how to manage children. Well, Alexander hates him, sister fanny hates him. The whole time through you're never quite sure what's exactly going on and I think I'm up to five viewings of funny out at Alexander now and it's got to the point where I don't think the Bishop is quite as evil as we perceive him to be at first. But it's one of the reasons why I really liked the film, because it doesn't have a one dimensional antagonist. Bishop is never a straightforward evil character, finding very sympathetic. He really wants a wife, he really wants children. Doesn't know how to handle him, doesn't know how to treat them. There's no idea, no conception of how to do it and because of that it is how it comes to view him as evil. And the whole film is about Alexander Assert himself and growing up and being his own person. And I like the title the film, Fanny Alexander, because the film starts off as him being always grouped together with him and his sister. The parents called out. The call up Fanny Alexander is the film progress as he slowly becomes Alexander, as he asserts himself, says things like he does not wish the bishop a good night and talks back to him and as own way, tries to become his own man and I'm going to spoil it too much, but it's some interesting personal identity things that come up later on and just an incredibly dynamic film. So stage I'm not sure it could be that it could also be video drome, because video drame I've watched, as I've said, once every year, every couple of years the last few years in it just overwhelms me a lot every time. Like a clockwork orange. It's a real audio visual assault in the sensors on Short's music score constantly brooding in the background. The ideas of the film the I like the most, and Burger seems really ahead of himself with the film and some of the predictions in there about where television will go and our relationship to do films and television. I just really love the image of James Wood sticking his head in the television set because it's sort of that relationist that we have only watching a film become so immersed in it we don't actually realize that we're still sitting in a living room or on a treadmill sitting at a people eating Genoa, watching or whatever the the case, maybe or actually so immersed in the film's Universe, and there's some interesting dialog I can't quote it the bat him, but it's things like images, about the region of the mind's eye. It emerges as a real experience. It's all about the experience of watching films. And then you see this different places, like the place which is like a homeless shelter, but it's not a homeless shelter as television sets for peel who are homeless but who are addicted to watching TV, so I can still get their fix of it. As the whole idea of a pirate video broadcast at James would tapped into and the video broadcast causes him to have delusions, causes them to hallucinate. And without spoiling it too much, one of the dynamics that comes out is by on earth would you watch something like the thing in the pirate cast? Pirate broadcast is really ultra extreme violent. Watcher said, isn't no purpose in they're just for cereal thrills, sort of like why would you watch then the first place? Just the whole idea of the different things that it puts into his mind by watching it taps into a lot of things throughout Kronberg's filmography, the ideas of creative cancers that I've come up in films as early as ms of the future and the way that our body is changing and relationship to technology, and what we're doing in Kroniberg would do is remake much superior...

...make of the fly, only three years after video drome, which was a lot about how our bodies are changing based on technology. There, you know, accidentally, but still in a video drime you've got that sort of edge there and how things are changing. And what was really interesting. I know Clem isn't here with us. Are you up? When I was speaking with Clem before? I so that's really strangely, your favorite two films a video drame and Fanny Alexander, because there's so different and they are a bit different stylistically, but I think thematically they're very similar and it's what I really like. This whole idea of people who can't trust their perceptions. Are Trust with Alexander whether he's really seeing as father's ghosts. There really is a difference to avengers father's death. James, would you cut tell if he's hallucinating, if it's real, and some of my other favorite films like Solaris but Andrea Tokovsky again the main protagonist there. He's not sure about whether or not seeing his wife, and films like Eyes Wide Shot, which is also my top five, where Tom Cruise is not sure exactly what he witnessed that night. So I'll have saying it still not short hundred percent what my favorite film is. I really like those films that really challenge what the perceptions are and whether what we are seeing as real. It's an interesting two picks from solar and they are both films that I really enjoy. David Cronenberg is one of my favorite directors. I discovered him quite early on in my film watching experiences and I went through his entire filmography. He's obviously renowned for his body horror and I think the practical effects that he employs in his films are excellent, both in video Rome and also, as soul mentioned, in the fly. They really bring his bizarre creations to life in a way that captivates the audience and displays their horrors that he imagines. With funny and Alexander. I really enjoyed that film because for the most part it's kind of played out. It's like a regular drama, but there's a couple of surprising scenes in it, certain scene in the lough where there's an unexpected moment of kind of horror that hints something fantastical behind the story. And I really like when films I played predominantly as a straightforward drama but then they have these little notions that come to the fore in and certain scenes that take you by surprise and kind of open the film up to offer interpretations separate to the the main storyline. So I have to ask which version of fanny and Alexander do you prefer? Theatrical or miniseries? I've actually only ever seen the miniseries version. I thought about it over time. Should I watch the three hour version and then the five hour and then compare and contrast? I just look at Fanny Alexander that it's a perfect film as it is at five hours long. Like they say in Amadeus, which notes would you cut out? I don't know which notes I've cut fanny Alexander's. So it's never really seemed any point in me watching the shorter version. But a sort of morbidly curious about it. They are very different. The three hour films fine as a standalone, but I also prefer the the miniseries version. They could have probably cut out some of the longer speeches from the miniseries, but you lose a lot also, I think, in the shorter version. I'll just say on that note, with some of the speeches Fanny Alexander, it does a long time to warm up because you have lots of sities of the characters talking. That really annoy me the first couple of times that I saw, and I mean still gave it, you know, a five out of five or whatever, but I never really until maybe my third of view and really got the fact that it was really such a great film...

...because you had that first hour with the Christmas party and all the different characters there. With subsequent viewings I've come to realize that it's all about presenting this world where Alexander's only a small part of it and it's earning as the film regresses along, the gradually comes to protagonist his own story, just like a child white maturing into adulthood. And I suppose now it's my turn and I'm a little bit embarrassed here because, in the film I've been holding up as my favorite for so many years, stalkier just didn't live up to my expectations, by my vision of it, when I saw it again two days ago. Maybe it was just the pressure I placed on it as being my number one that led to it's my still a fantastic and wonderful film, just couldn't call it my number one anymore, which is why today I'll be talking about last day at Mary in Bald however, as as Dalker has been my favorite film for so long, I feel that need to present just why I loved it, and I do hope that everyone, including solve, have actually seen this one. But, but just in case, I'll be strung in a quick thought, summary thought you is set in this world, this gray, dark and dead world, where there is this one seeming ray of light, there's a historical soul, often believed to be magical, which is guarded by the police. And in this song it is claimed that there is a room that makes your dreams come true and to get there need to be led by a stalkier. A stalk is essentially a guide, and a writer and a scientist joined him to reach this room, but with very, very different aims. I think there's three components are that really made thought your earn my love. The first is purely technical, though it affects everything else as well. I mean it's just the masterly wight, our ghost you shoot the all of his films. The log takes the breath, taking visuals, that tension, the focus, the dark beauty it brings to the screen. The second was just this concept of the soul, and I love films that bring this internal large shape where you kin have to try to figure out how this one thing works and there's just so much ambiguity, so many rules, so many questions, and I love that in films. And the third is the philosophical dynamics off and between the characters, and these three components just makes this incredible whole a hole which has one point would have described as one of the tensest and most absorbing experiences that exist. I mean, if you take the absorbing, slow manner in which these characters takes themselves to the complete unknown magical terrain in front of them, and you add in this idea that anything could happen, this feeling that Danishure is everywhere, that any wrong move is fatal. And you just hadn't walked with this beauteous full landscape. Is this Dystopian, beautiful landscape with, you know, tanks and corpses bird in overgrown fields, and this just means that every action these characters makes is elevated and question. I'm going to say question, I mean within the film's large shake and in a broader philosophical discussion. This also makes it a really great counterpoint to last year at Mary in bad which in some ways it's really lacking in that ladder department. So this quickly, what changed for me this time. But well, I have said it to just wasn't as absorbed and this might have been my mood. Well, honestly, I started to get a bit of a bad feeling as soon as the opening credits started rolling, because it felt smaller and I remembered and I started to nick pick all of these little things, like, you know that attempted at humor in the beginning when the writer flirts with...

...this woman and she drives off with his hat to this really, really tiny things just decreased my appreciation of it. Give one other example of one of the most dispenseful scenes close to the beginning when they actually try to sneak past the barricades to enter the soon, but there's just this one cup on a bike that's consistently missing them. That just didn't have the edge that it had the first time. With the magic beauty is still here, and as soon as they get to the song, the film is absolutely fantastic. But I guess the damage at that point was done. Let's find only I'm sorry for taking along rings me to its replacement last year at Mariyan Bald, which throughout the years has been a frequent number two for me whenever I've set up any lists like start with, has an internal, near magic largic where everything seems possible, and both films can and have been interpreted in so many different ways. However, this is very similarities. End. Darker is actually a relatively straightforward narrative and it's interpretations are based on what we see in last year at Marin Bald. We do not know what we see then. Entire film is constructed by contradictions. And again I really hope that everyone, including Saul, has seen this. But just to give a quick summary, a man and a woman at a luxurious to tell it seems quite mundane. They meet and he claims that they meant before, perhaps at Frederick's bought, perhaps that Marian Bald and she denies it. She claims he doesn't remember it. Every story he tells gets contradicted. She tells him he's wrong, she tells him it didn't happen, and the story just grows and grows from there. And again there's just so many contradictions. What the characters tell us to not match what we see on the screen. We do not know what's a lie, what's true, what's the present, what's past? What this imagination, or even in just what order these events unfold. This is what makes it so incredibly easy for me to love this film, and I just think that every viewing reveal something new, something that contradict something you taught before. This one little detail, this one little line that might clear up something or bring something else into the film. But but this was also why I hesitated a little bit to make it my top favorite, because if you look at Stalker, that's a film that has so much philosophy that can be brought into the real world. Be that the religious as very strouted a bit, be that the critique of the USS are be that just appear into the mind of the artist, meaning Tarkoski morry about doesn't really have that dimension in the same way, at least to me, but at the same time, started it doesn't have what Marin bout has does, this revolutionary story structure and cinematic language crafted in through it, not just by Allen Renette, but also Ale Nyway we let, who was behind the script, and I think few films actively challenges your mind in the same way, and it's just a free flowing way that Marian Bob does it as well. It can place you in this dreamlike state of wonder or, in the mind of us, structural puzzle, if you will, where you carefully calculate each answer and how these answers git together, and I suppose this is where it kind of gets closer to installed to indust its internal dream logic. There's just so much we can talk about their simply in terms of ICONICS, cinematography and the way it works with its actors, almost presenting them as statues in a way, or that this this phenomenal game in the the game of name, which I discovered because of this film. It's a mathematical game the characters played consistently. It always has the same winner. I think it just gives Cretens to that hall how mathematical and methodical the film is,...

...well at the same time as anything, but because, unlike mathematics, there's no direct truth, there's no direct answers, and having a film I can engage with in this way it's just it's just a dream to me. Yeah, like I said, when I choose my favorite film is it's really difficult and there's so many competitors. I mean one of the top ones would probably be level her by Agnsvadada, because there you have both internal stylistic logic and it does so many incredible things that the same time it has not broader, terrifying point about humanity. That separates it's a lot from any of my other favorite films like children of Paradise, which is just absolutely gorgeous, or films like Herod Purgatory and even after by a leander back with let that are a lot more similar to last year, more about if you will, in that it has this internal logic in place around with time and structure, and then of course it's my favorite director, John the good are then so many of his films through there becoming my old favorites. I think like, if anything, this podcasts are has brought to me and that I really doesn't need to sit down and rewatch my favorite films over and over again until I actually put us out. But lastly, my body is does the fantastic voice and to my mind and I love that film so much. So it's an interesting choice of favorite films. They're Chris. I have to say that both of these films are the kind that I appreciate more than enjoy. So I respect the artistic direction that's taken in them and how beautifully the films are presented, but neither of them resonate with me on it a personal level that I would need to have for them to be considered favorites. No, it's interesting that you mentioned stalk because I recently re read the novel that it's based upon, roadside picnic by this through Gatsky brothers, and stalk of the film goes on quite a different path that the novel takes. The philosophical slant of Stalker seems to be Tarkovsky's own ideas on the concept, whereas the book there's a lot more action, there's a lot of events that are taken place and it's actually follows the lives of some stalkers over a series of years. There's four separate chapters which revisits them during various points in their lives. And I also think it's interesting that the novel is called Roadside Picnic, because the authors imagined that the zone that we see in stalker could basically be an area where aliens or extraterrestrial life. I've just stopped by briefly and passing. They're like humans who've had a picnic in a forest and left all are empty rappers and rubbish, and the US in the forest don't understand what any of these objects that are left behind are, and that was the main concept for Stalker, that humans we're seeing all these discarded items and objects that have distorted the landscape that we are used to and created something strange that we wanted to find out more about. Yes, I have seen stalk or and I have seen last year Marie and bad and I've got a few gaps and my film Viewing Korea, but I've been into film for about nineteen years. I have got around to these films at various points. Do really like stork. I've seen that one a couple of times and it's got a really great basic story into it about these characters going to the zone. What different reasons and sort of idea that. I've seen a lot of other films since then, like recently Alex Garlands and my elation at the same sort of idea of these characters wandering into it onknown place in the Leonardo DiCaprio film by Danny Boyle called the beach, mind me...

...a little bit of Stalker. So the films that I see remind me a lot of stalk. I just will get that vibe from it. Just that a whole idea about venturing into the unknown, which is very someone so solaris and probably something which I really like about Salaris also. And Yeah, last yet, Marie and bad. That's again been a very highly infillential film to me. It's another film I watch a lot of films often pick up that Marie and bad connection. Old Idea of a mysterious place with from people do a different things, contradictory dialog like Chris said, and the whole uncertainty of what's going on. A stuet Marie and bad, or was it Frederick's bad and it's just very stylistically a very interesting film. I love the photography by Sasha Viernie, owing up and down all different corridors are the Ernie also did a lot of Peter Greenaway films, like the cook, the thief, his wife and her lover. It's a very lusciously shot, very involving universe and a film that stephitely made it impact on me, even though you don't quite understand everything at the end of it being, when push comes to sharp I probably prefer Ar Ashima one and Wir of the Bay Rena films that I've seen. Last yet, Marie and bad's definitely a very impressive film and the film that I've enjoyed seeing a couple of times over the years, maybe three times even. That's another one, and my blue eye collection I actually have seen and I think that brings us to a conclusion. Guys, thank you so much for joining once again, I've really enjoyed a discussing not only my favorite film but everyone else his favorite film today and if anyone listening would like to share their stories of the fair favorite film for us, would love to hear from you. We have a dedicated podcast threat on the ICM forum, which can be found on ICM formcom to please feel free to come and share your stories with us. So one thing I would say is don't be like me. Actually go out and watch some of these films, because a lot of films that I got into really early on when I was getting into my film going journey, which I just got around to over the years as other things have taken priorities. I guess it's want to be in the point where you've been watching films for nineteen years and you're able to say, well, I still have and Seen Seven Samurai. I try and see some of these iconic films I actually are really good, or at least ones that I've seen been pretty good. And on that note, join us again next time when we'll actually talk about some of the biggest films the having avoid the and why talking images is brought you by ICM Forumcom, one of the best places to discust films and find new recommendation during today. Thank you for listening and join US AGAINST YOU.

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