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Episode 0 · 2 years ago

Pilot: Nobody Watches The Simpsons, and the New Episodes Are Not Allowed to Be Good

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In this pilot episode Chris and Adam discover that, like everyone else, they no longer watch The Simpsons, sparking the questions: Who on earth are still watching it, is it on air for anything but sentimental or nostalgic reasons and could the new episodes actually be good?!

... or rather our pilot episode, of talking images, the officially unofficial podcast of the ICM forum, which, of course, can always be found at ICM Forumcom. I think you're going to have to be the host. Got The right price, do I also told not even don't do a fantastic British accent. Got This action not British. Come on, that's that's a semantic difference. It doesn't make any sense. Identity Christ. That is fair. Ripp there is no British accent. A suppose. I'm just joking. It's just like people don't like I call it British. Yeah, yes, of course it's the Scottish nationalism. I suppose only about I'm I know, I know. Well, this is gonna ruin. Most of the bands. Did you have? You have to earn up to say something that? and Ig well, I could go with on the low row route and just or route and just talk about kills and Haggish and all times to things that. Yes, or so. What was there about Norway? That's a problem. What does anyone know about Norway? Well, isn't it a Sistan's episode? I think it might just be county because of the Chan but it's burned into my mind. When, so, when Lista ask you what countries with the People Asleep on the on the dirt, and the person speaking with says, have you ever been the doorway? She Says No, and he says, well, I do the doorway, and I guess the not so one of the later ones. It's all of the early ones. Yeah, Oh, yeah, like, how are they? I want to see tonight the first ten storry. I think that's the only thing anyone seen. Actually, it is here's still. It's one of these programs that continues to get made. Well,...

...everyone stopped watching at twenty years, you know, pretty much. It's actually one of my favorite program it was great. Yeah, I think I'm a I think I'm watched all the way, or more or less all the way, up until the movie, which was like two thousand and nine or something. I think that's what everyone did, like it had been dying before. They know, I think I stopped watching ages, but also happened. There's lots of people stop watching ages before the movie and when the movie came out everyone went back to see it again. who had like this that's probably more accurate, because I think I stopped watching like season twelve. He got we got we got Scott, like we got virgin and my cable, you know, we got Kep to you and remember being like Yes, New Simpsons episode. I watched it for a while and I was like no, this is crap and I stopped. The rest are rumors going around, as seems this is good again. There's some people I don't even know who they are. In fact, I think the extent of this is that it's not even people telling me this directly, but it is like second what was the work they gat, like second degree, or like it's someone referring to someone else, like in the show. So I will be coming up with someone talking about the sistens. They will be saying, Oh, this one person, which I have never met, likes the show and says it's good again, but this other person doesn't care enough to check back in. Need to do I and now I'm telling you. So it's kind of like this. It's it's one of those things where everyone one says they hit. Nobody haven't actually watched it for fifteen years. So how can you hit something you've never seen? Pretty much I quote not the Soldan or part of an episode, and I have no idea what seasoned it was, and it seemed perfect abbit with it just it was an episode about homer sims becoming friends with a multimillionaire because Lisa and his daughter went to school together and Lisa essentially became the billion or millionaire...

...billionaires daughters fully like or Bullie weak them most in actually, yeah, I think that. I think that's new, but I don't know what can't tell. Can Tell where the animation and by the voice. Yeah, but all the other DART sns different. Now. Yeah, what part is different? A March? Marge's voice. You know the month. Oh, okay, because because our voice is very like. Oh, I car voice is kind of if you keep doing marge's voice for years, eventually can I get worse? Because anyway you can tell from her voice. And also the animation is too good now. All right, yeah, made the animation to night. I too good times. Animation, I find can get high quality, so it doesn't no longer looks ballistic. Quite I don't have to explain it, but modern animation sometimes I find yeah, if each is a certain level where it fact is so good. Can make it detract from what you're watching. I think. Yeah, I think you're completely right there. Yeah, and I know exactly what I mean. Is a little bit like how Video Games become too realistic as well, and then it's few expected or so realistic takes away from the realism somehow. If you look back, I know simpsons episode, it probably doesn't look so good for like kids today, but, like they wasn't perfect. kind of added something to it and made it feel or real. I don't know why. I'm not sure if it's more real, I think, what's the call? Again, the Uncanny Valley look quite the same thing, but it's not more real. But it's like, I don't know how to explain it, but sometimes animations too good that you're animation can get so good that you actually notice the animation is good. And you fact that I can notice animation is good means I'm thinking about stuff other than watching the programs. When the animations at the way other it was and the Nitey...

...don't there's a point where animation was rubbish, you know, like the shorts, shorts. Anyway, times animation is so good that you're focusing on the fact, wow, this animation is good and that's what's impression you and you're no longer treating it like these are kind of real people. You Watch the symptoms. At his peak you were watching it like it was a sitcom, not like it was an animated program and the fact that it was animated just didn't really matter. Know, when you watch it, the animation so great that you're thinking wow, you know you watch some animated stuff, but it is and your you're focusing on the fact that animation is good rather than the fact that you're just happening to watch them this animated. It's my interesting there at least interesting we're feeling. If you don't seen kids cartoons nowadays with this ridiculous animation, is awful, and I oh yeah, I mean I I have two step nieces, so I've seen like door of explorers of the stuff they're watching. It's a little bit aery. I think that they come fake. It becomes fit because to cleanness, to Christ yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's a I think there's two rays this can go so, I mean I remember when the Pixar movies first came out on Blue Ray and that was like quite spectacular, I thought. I mean obviously it's a different experience. You noticed animation a lot more needed before, but I thought that that worked really, really well and I agree with that. Like when you first see, when you first he picks are animation, you're impressed by animation, but some of that enhances a pretty good part. I get I'm not fair paying with about how good it is because if, obviously, if a show is using like beautiful animation, that that's fantastic, but I think in terms of the simsons that's not really what it's supposed to be. Do we think that's I also think there's also on the star job and the fact they look just once makes me criticize it. A lot of it. A lot other Simpson stuff is about. It looks different from I was it when I was,...

...when I was a kid, you know, the suit. Think think it looked a bit more adult, to be honest. In a way like that all the animation style. It looks a lot dirtier, it looks a lot more rough. It's a that's something add kind of realism by the disappear. Now I'm say here. I just I'm just rambling on. So it wasn't scared up. somethings care for the sentence. That's probably well, that's a good thing. That be online. You can just say I was technology going. Yes, of course I think as yeah, I made a very good point, but just one stop parting. Even absolutely fantastic point then and I get to get exactly what you mean this way like this, when an animation cell is distinct, like a part of the quality of the program is that animations. That is the impression you're getting, and seems is used to have a very specific style back in. We're going to change a lot, like you've ever works the stuff from the very beginning, the first season, and you compare it like I don't have us the same kind of reaction to that as I would like season three or four, five, it said I, which is probably where most like what most people understall stake for ever about. Most people feel is these is ins noise. Their real style, like the people season one in isn't one is very is not support noticeably different. This you know. It starts from the Simpson Short, so don't if you've watched the old yeah, exactly. They're obviously they're very true. Season One. A nation's differently. Even the voices one of the devices are different. Now and its members is like a different power as well. And Yeah, the vices are isn't one is very noticeable. It does kind of quarries kind of lower and I'm Ma she feel season one in Generali isn't good as an it's...

...kind of just starting off. Yeah, so, yeah, it's really really like season to, even though people say the peaks like five or something by I still really like season I liked, I like and for I think, but it was remember that that's discussed earlier. No one's actually seeing the show in about fifty plus years. So I guess whatever each seasons doesn't really make a difference anymore, unless you know, they the kind of dedicated fans that specifically by season one, two, nine and then rings repeat at six hundred and eighty one episodes. It's kind of like I remember they were talking about canceling it like Gift Hive plus years before, maybe even longer ago now, and everybody just took a reduced salary and there was this massive outcry as well fromably caused them to do so and simply because the institution like nobody was watching it anymore. No one actually, you know, the fan. It wasn't really there to Madiorit. Your people are told, Oh my God, it's so sad. I can't believe this. Instances ending for people who, all they were the same as us, hadn't seen it since like two thousand two three. So it's it's interesting. It's interesting how people feel so emotionally close to something that they haven't really seen anything from for such a long time. RESM that you're wrong. Maybe the simpsons has millions of dedicated fan still watching every single episode. I don't know. I don't know if kids watch it now. It's like we did, but most that most of the Simsons, I kid show the like. I don't. I watched now. I watched all the time as a kid. Yeah, I love it when I kids. Yeah, same, same, but I think the best, the best animated ones appeal to kids an adults. I have have them elments forever. You didn't. It totally appears to adults, but it didn't have anything that...

...we was so kind of adult that kids wouldn't bear to watch. Yeah, that's just probably true, but I remember thinking like, you know, that's good. At this it's Alt really adult, especially watching the old stuff. Now it feels a lot more adult. It's let's say they this random inside to make since before five and six. Now it would be probably something you'd see on no Netflix or I'm Assam forevery specific target audience. I think it would be a lecture. Yeah, I think like those seasons is made today. Would probably they be not quite bold, a horseman or something like that. There probably be targeting a similar demographic. I think. I'm not saying it's a kids. I just I start watching. I was in Primaris. Oh, same, so I'm loved it. So it wasn't. It is not. It's quite a late about to everyone's not. I don't feel like to Saim that specific. It's grouped like you like family guy or something you like. That's not for little kids or so. But even like south part little kids kids like it. But your murder would go the famor would go after heads. Simpsons is it was a lot more universal. Okay, well, I'm not sure if you would be today. Like this thing, like when I look back, it did a lot of things like I guess like it's never over. Okay with back then, but that's a lot of a lot of things. I don't think like paramans would necessarily fine that acceptable to day. Like you know the standard yoke of Omer. It's essentially trying to kill Bark, remember, with all of those strangling on on the time. And remember it's an episode where homer's the Simpson House, goes on fire. HMM, no, it doesn't do that. You know. You know that episode where homer stops going to church. It's at the one of the shuts burns down. No, has some house burns. So more stops going to church and he stays at home instead and then he's like smoking a Cigar and...

...on the Sofa on the family or at Church, if I was asleep, and sets the whole house on fire. Secret there's a bit where like Flanders Help Save them or something, and then that's lander's house goes on fire too. I can't remember. So I don't know. I can't remember. Send of something at one point in that saves homer and then that's like are you dine? The same for me, and homer has a COO white. You see homer dreaming and it's like most dreaming of wit and that being on fire and that being an nice empire and homers like running around sharing and stuff. That's has a lot like the stuff as well, but it's nothing. That's like every program has been. Most programs and lesser specificate kids programs have stuffed that some parents would objective. Oh yeah, probably, it's not door of explorer. I mean like this, if some parents probably wouldn't let her kids watch anything. I mean I watched like when I was a kid. It wait object to certain things, but the simpsons is harmless overall. Oh Yeah, pretty. It's through its rough. I guess today like a yeah, I'm assuming, but I guess today it's a little bit more polished, it's a little bit more clean. It doesn't make assumption. Again, I can be completely raw. It's a watch an episode. Maybe that will be one of the podcast you know, we'd Actually Watch a simpsons episode. Maybe something? Yeah, exactly. Maybe at that point, really been having all dience. Lask like Hey, guys, is there anyone? And this all things actually feel water citizens and maybe there is this one person raises hands like Oh wow, guys, if you were still watching it, you would know that episode fourteen of Season Twenty Six is the best of all time, and then watch it and you may or may not agree. The thing is, I sound stupid, but probably want to watching the episodes and find out that they're good. Why? Because in my mind, you know, the one to ten was good than everything else, and it's not. If it turns out it's good, it's like our crap. I could have been watching all this time, but then you'll get into the situation was like, Oh, wow,...

I can there's too much to catch up on. The too much. You know that that the moments passed. No, I'M gonna watch if an episodes are good. I've got a catch up on like twenty years of TV. Well, no, we're yeah, the quite short, though, and also there would pay a minute. Yeah, so, I mean if they're actually were though like that. That's all of those things you could a slowly, slowly go through. And besides, it's corona times, you know. So you talked about finding something addictive and if this instance is magically good again, that could be that, you know, addictive. Bill just don't want to watch it. That's fair. That that's I don't think it's one. Every time I watched in the like, whenever I'm watched in the episode, I just think I want to watch the monomail one again or something. I was so just it's just not the same. And Him, well, you don't know, God you'll know. Yeah, you of US know that I'm so stuck with the opinion that it isn't good for it to be Bret for me to like it, but Blatter like it to be amazing time. You know, because I'm so Akain this. But but what the well, the if you were actually watching this in and for some reason, like whatever reason, you couldn't tell about season it from it, from tell straight away. I'm a friend, but we don't know if it's like season eleven or season twenty seven, like the mics. Okay, but yeah, yeah, yeah, so like you might think, Huh, is this the point where I quit, or is this the really new stuff? And you would how would you evaluate that? But if you still watch Timson, still watch the old episodes, that is on telling. Um had all on DVD. So I watched it a bunch of times. I was actually gonna do a rewatch. Then there's all twenty seven years of catching. I was gonna I was gonna...

...do a re watch and then I was going to see how long it would go before I before I stopped liking it. Then don't have the DVD's here. Oh Yeah, Oh, the hassle trying to find dinner. That's the pot by one. Good there. We watch a few weeks ago. That's a great to do. We Watch and and the thing is quite hard to be watching Simpson, even the first ten seasons. You're talking two hundred episodes. Yeah, of course, of course. I think I have it for hot take. It not hot take. I'm not sure. This is something that's probably wait, whole pot guess, but since it's only one person listening, I can be the re is that. I kind of think it's just like if you bing a show. I think that the quality lives on in a different way, by which I mean that each consecutive episode in your mind keeps a lot of the quality lost investment from the previous episodes. You won't necessarily notice solve the bad stuff. It would slightly more forgiving because it's part of a greater hole. Like I remember rewatching Dexter, which is we ended up being a tarrible show with. Don't tell me about Dexter. Sorry, sorry, but love Dexter for how you am you too, honestly, head to think text is probably the show killer here. You don't bring up takes through this. You want to kill a conversation. So on that note, let's conclude our first pilot episode of talking images. I hope you will join us again for future episodes, we actually have morels and possibly better production values.

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