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Episode 24 · 1 year ago

ICMFF2020: Main Slate and Highlights From the Festival

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Recording in the midst of ICMFF2020, Chris, Matthieu and Tom break down the main slate and the highlights from the festival so far.

You are listening to talking images, the official podcast of ICM Forumcom. Welcome back everyone. I'm Chris and it's festival season now. This might be a little bit of a rougher episode than usual because we'll be rushing to get it out. We're in the midst of ICMFF, two thousand and twenty three weeks in, one week left at the time of recording, and it's, at least for me, been a blast so far and we want to make sure that this is out as soon as the festival is over and that everyone can hear about the movies as soon as possible. For those who are not aware of what ICMFF is, it is the ICM forum festival, or more specifically, the ICM from Film Festival. This is one of the greatest strength of ICM forum, at least for me, and honestly one of the highlights of my cinematic year, and I can't say enough good things about our programmers. Unfortunately, none of them to be with us today. I without love to ask them so many questions about the preparation day put into this work, because they again only worked for about seven eight months of the year to find and compare and assess films for our program so it just hats off to them. They've done an incredible, incredible job. Now we have one mains late consisting of ten films, as well as Ninefol subcact degrees, Ourt House, animation, Europe, Latin America, Africa and Asia, in the just before dawn, documentary and Lgbtq, and it's just extraordinary. You have that higher form coming together watching these films, dividing them up, joining in on the slates that are the most exciting to them, and there's so many films are discovered every single yeah, not for this episode. We have two official jurors for the main slate section, one of them being me, the other one being mature, and one participant Tom so we will get a bit of a pretty wide ranging discussion here. We've all seen well over twenty films from the selection so far, so we'll be going through our favorites. Are Highlights, as talking about how the festival is going in general, as well as covered entire main slay. So I'll just turn to my co house, and this gets this conversation going, by just asking at how is the festival going for you guys? Hi. Well, it's going they well, I would I whichuld I should say. It's my first time participating this year and it's been a really good time. I've discovered the Bush of really good films and I we appreciate the variety in terms of the selection by the programmers. So, yeah, we're having not a sound with it. Hi, this is Tomp like Matthew. This is also my first time part Payton in the festival. I'm also really enjoying it. It's great to see such a diverse selection of films from all areas of the world and films that perhaps I wouldn't usually be checking out. Put I'm really enjoying so, yeah, it's going really well so far. Yeah, I really can't say enough about just how they've worth. This setting is I think we have a selection of programmers with very the worse taste, and what happens to a shortlisted is essentially that just need to get a certain amount of general approval for them, a meaning that we get so many different tastes matching in, and the main slate is usually such a nice eclectic mix to what the what's for you, the greatest film you've seen from the main slate, and so sunny and I says it's would be human hunts conrector and made it seem from angry. I know if you want me to go into it more or no. I can jump into those a little bit, little bit later. What's your favorite time? My favorite is also from the main slate, which is invisible life, which was an incredible experience from looking forward to discussing that perfect in my favorite was, unenturprisingly, Martin Eden, which bolved two films that I had seen just before the festival. So, and all of this just at length, in the top five films of two thousand and nineteen. So we could probably won't be diving as steep into that. As Tom Oland said, his favorite film from the entire play was from the main slate. But it's not the same for you at your or is any of the films from the other sections standing out better for you? I know something want is my favorite over home. I mean there is another thing that I was to recently of another section that I loved as well. You cash that checkmen. Want is my favorites. Or what about your Chris Day from the actually worked me in this my favorite the world, though. Yeah, there are a couple of really big films that were on my top ten of two thousand and eighteen as well, which our long days during in...

...tonight, and the birds of passage. Both films had seen before the festival to but yeah, the mains late this year was exceptionally strong, I think. So let's just dive straight into them in the orders to actually percent that the in the program starting with Martin Eden on top weight. I think all of us discussed to death in that in that episode. But just for a recap for everyone else to take, what really stands out in this film is just unique style that the director, Pietro Macello, has built up over his career, which is this type of slightly saturated cinematography and in a bit of but distance essays style which at the same time is this no historical epic in character for great so you are simultaneously exploring this what you could say is a deeply personal drama, but it's distance, the slightly put at edge. We just to play on color integration with on documentary elements of foot touch, giving a bit of poetical edge to the to the extent that you kind of judge knowledge, judging the film, this this brick and distance where you simultaneously immersed in the film but judging the film on the sideline, which works really well, as this is not a straightforward character rom but a satire on Individualis them so it just makes it much clearer, it's much easier to assess and just judge everything and also this get consumed in this this very poetic wish will style that Marcello has created. So definitely highly recommended from me. Yeah, I enjoyed much in it and ut as I said already and in that other podcast, one thing I would just add to what you said, Chris, is the performance by the lead actor, Luk at Myn Eddie. He's I mean he's been good in other things, but I think is this is really his best for I think at the's as far as what I've seen, I agree that it's a very striking film visually and stylistically. The story did intrigue me initially, although I found that towards the latter parts the film, when it becomes more embroiled in the politics of the area, it lost me at that point. It's a film I appreciated more than I enjoyed, but I can certainly see why resonates so strongly with you guys. And Yeah, I think that's the one. The general criticism were getting from a lot of people who are not loving it as well as I think that's a bit if it's a chilly seal. If you have a bit of an interest in politics or philosophy, especially off that era, and you see it's no, it's a illusions to both the rise of social movement, of the Fascist Movement, etc. Fasi. Moving most in documentary foota shipped in, I think you get more into it than if you don't have a big interest in it, and that means it can be bit more hitter misstand maybe I'd like. But moving on to the film, that definitely been more hit and miss. A Russian ute, which I know that mature and I disagreed hum quite a bit. So I can certainly see why. So, for those who don't know, this was actually a exercise in nonprofit filmmaking. It's made an association with thousand Sukrov Foundation and it's also clearly inspired by Sir Gross Visual Style. It's very is it? The esthetics are very strict back is what it's bit was just striking, stripping down the fact that gives the impression of the film beings like the older it's set in World War One and, as you can tell, it follows a Russian youth. And I think one of the things that's most distracting and didn't quite work for me in the beginning but work long term, is the fact that it is composed or shot as it was composed. Time will paineously with films of a Modern Day Orchestra playing music at the same time as the film is happening and all. Do you think of that effect? But yeah, so as far as the pain enough of it goes, I found it mostly to be a destruction. I mean early on I thought this is interesting. I mean we're putting in context this these pieces of music which, as it turns out, it's two different pieces. One of them was written before World War One and the other one before World War II, and that sounds interesting in theory, but I think in practice it just doesn't really work in the thing at it's not for me. It's very dissonant. I mean you hear a lot of the rehearsal process right, that the idea being that maybe the orchest race trying to score the film as it goes. But yeah, it just didn't come here into something that worked for me. She's a shame because I did enjoy the film in terms of it. Now it's narrative parts, I think as the estetic you described works really well and it really makes it feel like a fin of that era. Fim made after what we...

...wandered before World War Two, right, like the Dick Parade or something. I mean that does this look which also recalls the recent documentary like Jackson. They show not gold in terms of the look of colorized pictures from the era. I think that's very effective. But yeah, the the Meta aspect did not really work for me. Yeah, I can easily hear that. I did struggle with that in the beginning. To I can't say enough good things about roll style. I think it's very striking, very unusual and very evocative, especially as you're going to get close to the Russians youth face and you see him in various stages of struggling. In it, you can get quite emotionally in intense. I think what did the work for me with the with orchestra is that you consider reacting as well. So you do have this metal elements where they are watching the footage which shot as if they're watching the footage, they're thinking about it, they're reacting to it, and this should be a bit of a cooler show effect as well. But you can kind of read into their faces that you know they are feeling the pain of the main character ordered they're feeling the situation and the trying to think of how to how to score it. And of course it's the fairly young band to so I guess in terms of Russian youth it should be seen, as you know, Russian us of today and the Russian us of them. But it is a bit disjointed. I do think it's actually one of the weaker points of the film as well, because it's shots so differently. You have this damndard digital modern shot of the orchestra and then you have the very beautiful esthetics of the past, and then this also just the fact that I don't really think the film, as it stands, it's in the main story, as is shot and told, would work that well. Without the ORC is right time without that forr more scenes, because it is really stripped down. Really. That's like if you see the opening, see scenes, for instance, almost entirely the orchestra playing in just this young boy going over. He'll for instances. I think it. It might have been a very tin film without it. Yeah, the sorry is really basic. That does definitely the case. Kind of reminiscent of a common see in its structure of it that jam much more, as you said, stripped down. I just never said a connection with orchestra. It never said to me that they were really reacting emotionally. It felt like it was just another Rehusal, but maybe it's because of the studistic differences. Yeah, I can definitely see that. And I think this is also one film gotten big mixed review. I think the people who really loved it, a lot of people in my reignfall really appreciated it, thought about a good or great film. And then you also have people in your camp matter, who just didn't think that mixed worked well or at all. So I think it's interesting to see a film that gets such diverse and mixed reception. Well, I wasn't that, I mean I wasn't that strongly against it. I did mostly enjoy it's over. I gave it him just miley positive scoll. I just think that one aspect of it, which is important of course, didn't work. Get on it, but I didn't hate it, I didn't just like it. Here really good and one a next film is one that I think got the big more of an even score, with people largely agreeing on the strength and weaknesses, which which is also quite interesting, which is the schools out, which is a bit of a guess mixture of psychological thriller from Dark Carmody, about a teacher entering in a highly achieving class, essentially the lead class, separated from all of the other students, and starting to realize that something is wrong with with this class, well at least certain members of it. This was the first film that I chose to watch from the festival and I went into it knowing absolutely nothing, just trusting in the taste of the programmers, and I think that I was rewarded by that and it gave me confidence that the rest of the program was going to be really exciting to explore. I loved the ominous atmosphere of this film. I I said, Chris, it's kind of a psychological thriller. It plays around with the notions of intelligent school children and almost like a kind of Colt aspect to it in how they act and how they behave. I got I think you can compare it to picnic at hanging rock. Oh yeah, but very similar vibes, the the kind of mystery aspect and there are parts of it which which are quite quepy, and I had a really good time with this. It's a film that I perhaps wouldn't even heard of were it not for the festival, so it's a great start. It really had the sweet spot for me. So, contrary to term, it's actually one of the things I was most familiar with in the main state, even though I hadn't seen...

...it, because it had gotten a pretty good critical reception here in France and I had just missed it in theaters. It's also the film that's for my context is kind of it plays in different ways, I think, both because, a I'm a teacher, so it must like the men character here, and also because teachers being afraid of their students is kind of the subjects right now in France, for people who don't you know, with the news there was a teacher who was kids by student of few now a month ago and it was a, as you can hedge in, a big thing, and so it was a little strange watching this film in in this context. Maybe it made it even more effective because it really is this psychological thriller and it's about particulization essentially, even though it's not the kind of orgization we talked about in the news often, it's still that. And you mentioned picknic at hanging work, which I said we haven't seen. The film I thought about also was not Johamma, I know if you guys are familiar with that one, but Tom Bon boneopin. Oh, Oh, yeah, I think of a person. Yeah, I love not too Rama. I like this one. I think one of the elements that was kind of divisive in the reception here was the ending. Actually, I'm not going to go into it, of course, but I was not as a huge fan of the ending. Some of the Juror's like the build up to its less than I did, but like the ending more. So I guess that's a point of difference. I think it's really effective when it's in this mood, this very how would you say for boarding mood? Or Yes, and Kanna seas is great in the main. Hold coming. He's generally of a good actor, but quite good here, even though the steps decisions his character makes are quite unprofessional in my opinion. But it makes for a good movie anyway. Yeah, I think in the end it's an effective psychologic, psychological feto. That's maybe forgo's a bit in the end for me, but Stilli is just that mood is so strong and it's most of the fair so I quite like it's yeah, I agree completely about the mood. I think the mood is would really sells it. I think I didn't look quite as much as some of you, perhaps, but that that's partially because it did strung a little bit to really get into it from the beginning where it really feels more normal. It's just this kind of quirky yet they're not doing no teacher coming into a class and find some issues with our class and tried to figure out what's going on. But then it is withden. Half an hour into it you are all starting to feel that onimous presence and that growth and Growth and growth until I'm going to climax, and I'm not going into anything in the last act of the film, but you really feel the intensity. Don't know what's going on, you don't even know who you're meant to be afraid for or off, and it's it's really intrinted man's just make you feel so uneasy, and also just how well the children are worked with here to just make them so annrving. I know a lot of euros compared to the children of the corner. So I think there's the children themselves are just so effective with very little tools. There's really little work happening here that it's not one of those films which is a horror film or does something excessive. It's all just these notions and ideas a build up and build up and make you terribly uneasy. I really appreciated the dynamic between the teacher and school children. I think that's what makes it work so whilcome. I point to view the fact that he really struggles to get to grip with what's going on and enters into this strange mystery. I like you said, Chris, it is kind of a familiar story, but it goes down some unusual roots and ends in a climax that worked really well for me. I was taken aback and quite surprised with the direction decided to go in. then. One thing I should add about finess of the children is that the way the finis written in terms of the language they use. They use this veryme for more so way of speaking, that even in the fancy school like this, it's stills strange. It's sounds strange, which I think adds to the trigger emphathy, I think, with the teacher and in that sense it kind of lets you go into the ramage hole with him, even though as the film progresses, it's kind of becomes unclear if he's over reacting or not, and I think that's works really well by kind of implicating the audience from the start, by making busting or this children are definitely weird and making us then question it's a little later. Yeah, I think it's quite effective in that way. You're completely right. I think it also plays the Internet, the feeling of these children, feelings so superior to their teacher,...

...making instantly sympathize until a lot if we be able to supersize with the protagonist or any of the protagonists. But, and it's also of the films which perhaps got the most lukewarmer negative reception is yully couple, which actually quite a quite life and, I might well, people like the most. I didn't love it. Deeply flawed, flaw film which is really just about a bunch of men chasing after a bull through the forest. That's more or less what it is essentially. A bull runs away, causes enormous destruction and then high village takes up the shade with increasingly extreme antics. So I'll move the floor or do you with an I'll give my opinion half to much and see. Great introduction to the film. Chris, I think I agree with you in that I kind of was underwhelmed by it and, to say the least, it's a fascinating assault on the senses. The visuals and the music combined to create this unforgettable experience bought. The narrative is lacking and it is, as you say, essentially just a group of people chasing a ball through the forest for an hour and a half or however long it is. It is shot incredibly well, but yeah, it's lacking that substance to it to really elevate it to the level that it's looking for. Yeah, it's kind of interesting to talk about this one right after a Lombit of soft tea, because they're both fetters. But where one is very quiet and foreboding, this one is just on chaos all the time, and actually so I didn't like it, but it's interesting. I don't think. I think it manages what it wants to do decently. It's just that I'm not super interested in what it wants to do, which is to basically show you very shocking things. I mean it's kind of like, or look at how bad is humanity is. And okay, sure, but to me that kind of it's kind of like agreeing about that free really doesn't exist. What's the point? I don't know. It's the other aspects of the films that don't work super well. The acting, I don't think is great. It's always hard to say. Of course nothing we don't know the language, but a lot of it is just kind of shouting that it's yeah, it doesn't feel it. That's real. Necessarily, not that I'm it's always supposed to. I don't know. It's definitely an intense experience and I think I think it, even though it is my least favorites of the of the main slates, I don't think it's a failure. I think it is for some people it might be really good one to regreend even if you want. Yeah, if you like really intense cinema, withy dark cinema, maybe it's one for you, but yeah, it didn't really presn't my thing. I mean, I can definitely see where you're coming from. I mean I think it's meant to be a more edic element here as well, and it does get ridiculous with a lot of the shouting, a lot of the biting, but it's just seems so thin. There's some bizarre jokes there, for instance, where one character is wearying and it's just turned the bird sharper. It's feel filier than it should be and it does that part with this does not work at all, at least not for me. But at the same time I'm so happy that this film was Sultan for the festival, because I there's no way I will have seen this film or otherwise. Now I really want to throw my hands up for a director, Leo, you say Pelocity, if I'm pronouncing that correctly, because I think he's been close to capturing a degree of less they cinematic extremity, just visually and riscually. I mean this is one of the most intense films ever made, even it's almost like a Rythmic Thriller Action Film where you just follow this massive, massive amounts of people through the forest. I mean the compositions of how to guess, hundreds? Maybe maybe it's just fifty two hundred people, but it steels. The scope feels so huge, especially when you have people with lights running through the forest playing set up this massive encampment and you kind of just on the floor with them. That the camera always moving. It's as this loud, chaotic manifestation of, you know, that animalistic, imprimitive within man, if you want to be a little bit poetic about it. It's just so it's incredibly intense, the pure chaotic mess that's still composed so well. Like I was just yes, every single time it gets silly or you get this really weird outside the offputting moments. It did take me out...

...of the film and it stopped me from thinking of it as a great film. But just that ristual element it just works so, so well, at least for me. Yeah, I think that's definitely done and I think there are some shots, like shots at the bottom of the well and when you have all the lights and you're looking at it from the dawn perspective. Yeah, I think it's he's definitely an interesting director and about this is made of the things that are somewhat acclaimed. So I love the description of the chaotic, relentless action and even though it's a film that I didn't particularly enjoy, it's one that I'll never forget. Some films that you don't enjoy just fade out a memory and you forget about him because there's no redeeming features, nothing remarkable. But this one, although it wasn't a brilliant film, I will never forget it because it was definitely a fascinating experience. And moving on to the next film, you think is also a film that's gotten a bit of a lukewar reception. Of I think there are some fans is Harasusa, which is just this. Let me the said, beautifully shot film. Looking at, I suppose, Paranoia and witchcraft in, you know, the the Ara where this was most act, and it's quite minimalistic, very little it's said. It is there are some absolutely fantastic ristules in there, and I suppose how well this film works of correspond to just how you're gripped by the center of performance the SOM of the more disturbing elements. That that would go both way. Yeah, again talk about a contrast between this and the previous film. This is extremely quiet, extremely moody and tense and it's beautiful shot. As you said, it's very much as it's a student film. It's, you know, end of study project and I didn't know that watching it, but it's kind of makes sense because you feel that this is a director who definitely is showing how good he is at creating images, creating lasting images and shocking images, that we work in this horror genre in kind of influenced by the which I would guess. But in the end it's a little lacking in terms of actually telling a story. I mean there is a story being told, but it's just not that's interesting and there's a lot of I think the way it's shot gets very repetitive. The shots are held it for a very long time, but it's not always clear exactly why. Right. I think there can be a purpose in really letting you live in a scene, but when you do that everything, it starts to get a little tiring. I agree that this story is a weak aspect if this film. Yeah, I also get the sensation that the director isn't particularly bothered as such about the story. He just wants to show off this beautiful hallucinatory cinematography that works really well bought without this strong story to back it off, it just feel flawed, although I've got to admire the ambition and, like you said, as this is the project for a student filmmaker, there's no doubt that is going to go on to great things if he continues to make films in a similar vein and builds on this experience. Oh yeah, completely. We didn't know this was a graduation film going in either, but learning about that afterwards it like you, they you guys said, it made complete sense. And this for me, it wasn't really story elements that damage to film. It was the direct horror elements, and I'm not going to talk about how they're done, but it does when they pop in they feel a bit clunky. When they're not there, you get this beautiful cinematography, fantastic shots and quite brilliant mood, but when it goes more work at times it just doesn't quite fit in with rest, at least for me. It also really want to highlight the underwater thing, which is probably the most hallucinatory scene, and the entire film, which just plays with all of these colors, especially red, that it's just like this it's just incredibly gorgeous. God it done. I just think that the wishtuls, the colors used by a Lucas Pike, the felt, it's just incredible. I think. Yeah, if he continues in this vein and the perfects this style and he's going to go a long, long way. Yes, I think a thing with striking images. It would would maybe have made full of very good shots, but it's promising. But as it is, I don't think it's free. Free Works. Yeah, it's definitely one of the weaker films at the festival for me as well. But moving on to a sup post, one of the most acclaim film for the Festival, I'm one of the most known films in the festival as well, Atlantics by MARTYDOP, which takes on the refugee crisis and it is a sudden at...

...least film following essentially a romance between a young girl and a man who's not suited for her and he is going to try to cross about the Adantis and try to get the better life, while she will be pressured into a marriage. And it has this social realism aspect to it. But without spoiling too much, it goes into a very different direction, and I'll sure if you even want to spoil it, but let's say there is a bit of a magical realist element there that it's very striking and for if you're not prepared for it, kind of comes out of nowhere, but but still works really, really well and feels incredibly intense, though I also think there are a few, let's say, thought in this still. What's your opinions about Atlantics? I really wanted to like Atlantics and actually seen it prior to the festival and I had sorted out, because of what I heard about it, these magical, supernatural elements that you feel with you Christ, we won't go into for those that haven't seen it, and it is a fascinating story. It's a culture that I'm not opfully familiar with, so is an interesting insight into the lives of these people. Yet when it made that transition to, you know, become a slightly different story, it didn't really work. While for me I wasn't sold on it and it's still an interesting experience and one that I can certainly see why some people would enjoy their it didn't quite work for me. Yeah, this is when I also saw, long before the festival. In fact, I think I saw it when it came out in theaters and that was, I believe, right as it was premiering in can. It's one of those things that came out in theaters at the same time as as can and it's a film that I feel very similarly to this film. that as I do to clear the Nice swimograph in general and this there's a connection in that messy job the director here. She was before known for acting in look at any film, constant common thirty five shots of one and yeah, I feel similarly in that it's very interesting. I think there's a lot of interesting stuff going on there and it's very competently done. I think it generally works. I did mostly enjoy it. I think there's something about looking at migration crisis, of the migration crisis from this angle, from this angle of the women left behind and where the own these young men or leasing for your poor trying to think that's a very interesting perspective and I think the same benefits from that. It just kind of leaves me, and it's our code. I think it's maybe trying to do too many things at the same time and maybe not entirely succeeding at ont of them. So yeah, I know I can see exactly what you mean and I had two more realistic part of it. The first half is this the strongest part to me. It's the most moment restinates the most. I mean it's a bit of a flip, like it's not that's extreme, but it's a bit like from dust cut the dawn where it kind of becomes a completely different films takes a completely different element. I really enjoyed the magical realism of it, how it restrained it was, how it worked with the effectors essentially very, very little and essentially try to just show the impact of migration, impact of the loss of all of these these man traveling away and just bring in a kind of Melanchol it and this kind of, I guess, make it clear, make it larger life and the way, just use magic in this way to really make its point, to make it come home, make it more strong to viewers. I think you still worked. I think there's some equal elements in there that doesn't really work. Some play with people who doesn't believe this is happening. happening. That's a depicative trying to figure out what's happening. I think that's element could have been cut. I didn't really enjoy that part of it, but at least for me it is a really strong filed with the great use of emotions. Again, it's just him. I did like and just you know, didn't love it, like it that much. Actually enjoyed the cup aspect of it, maybe because it broke walken. It's a bits the vlative monotony of the rest of the sin which I enjoyed it. But maybe it's part of the bit of a structured problem. I don't know, but I think that. But was not what's kind of effective. I know. And moving on to a film in my disagree on quite a bit. It's either be or I do'ar BEA which is set in breastil start. Its start following a young man in a very working class community. A worker is worked and he sent pace on to pick up some things for this person and he finds his diary and he starts reading it and it's kind of like his entry point into this journeyman, workers x criminal and how he's view of on life changes. Not...

...personally to me it this is probably my least favorite film of the festival. It's a film that worked the least for me, but I know matter has a very different reaction, so I'll let him get the positive feedback in their first yeah, I quite like yeah, and it makes for a great toble feature with the film will talk about later. I think what's I really Glumm dont with this one is the way that it's a film shaped like a folk song, and so it's this it's this fin that is telling the story of the Brazilian Working Class, essentially from the perspective of one guy with there's a bit of a framing narrative at the first but at the start, but then we see this this man's life in terms of Vignett's right in where he he has worked in different industries and different places. Is kind of he's kind of the idea of the working man, the product yats right, the guy who only has his body to work with. He has no particular quit qualifications, and so he is trying to make things work as things go and it's very precarious lifestyle and you have these political themes that I'm into it, but it's also very poetic and I think the way it's shots especially, it's gorgeous. Maybe maybe the best booking film in the whole slate, I think. Yeah, I think so, particularly that that first shot in the in the mountains, but you have this this kid riding a bike. It's just gorgeous and I think again it's a find. That's all about mood for me. Get that that again, that folk song mood, and it's using a lot of Brazilian folk songs as its soundtrack. And so, yeah, I quite enjoy this one. It's not my favorite of the main slade, but yeah, I was surprised that it's wasn't that well received. Generally. I think I liked it the most out of old jewels. But yeah, we'd recommend it. If that sounds repeating, and they said that not. Your take on the film makes it seem a lot more exciting than essentially the feel like I saw. I mean, I agree completely with the opening shot. I think that was beautiful. I love the music. U S there any kind of so I think the kind of broth a very different film as well. If the film also felt very disjointed to me, where I was starting to enjoy the story of the teenager and then I get pushed into this more fragment, the story of the worker, and I can see what you mean in terms of the political commentary, the social commentary. Some of that work quite well. I think those are the strongest elements in it. But I really didn't get caught up in the atmosphere or the visuals at all. I mean I think it felt rather flat to me, to be completely honest. It felt just like a certain moments of this person's life told through his diary text, but without that kind of impact that it brought into it. But I do like what you say in in terms of it being written and done nice folk song and about just displaying this idea of the broader working class in terms of both the teenager and this man and the community around them and this person's journey. But from for me it's in terms of just how it worked as a story and the storytelling and the general craft. It just didn't really work that well. For me. It's not a bad film, but it's that the film I enjoyed the least. Yeah, I think because it's so episod Saddic in terms of its storytelling, it can be little how to get into. I can definitely see that, but don't pick one from that one too. I guess the feel that you paired with it visible life with actually get favorite film of the bean slate. It's also set in Brazil and it's also set in terms of the working class, though here focusing on two women were specifically to sisters. So I think I don't let you do the interprease because I think you comparison here was quite that, but when I would are you actually it's more the middle class. I think that's why it's an interesting contrast between how yea and this one, because this one, where it takes place in the in the Sartist, it starts in the S and yeah, it's more of the middle class and where I have you is working class male perspective. This is middle class female perspective and it's just a great mental drama. It's, I think the tagline for the film is a tropical melodrama, and yeah, that's exactly what it is, and it also has a bit of a kind of classical theme in that the main character is named, you readis, and that's the name of the wife of opheus in the myth of opheus. Is Very interesting because these two characters, they, you know, their women living in Brazil in the S, which is. They come from a pretty conservative family and that's going to make life pretty tough for them. Basically, one of the and essentially escapes, but it's turns out that life for a single woman is quite difficult and the other one stays into that and it's difficult...

...for her as well. And so because you have this character and then you really see your kind of at least I was thinking during the film. Well, which one of them is going to be rescued from hell like with which one of them is in hell in this in this film, and it's not really clear because both of the situations are quite quite difficult. But it's also not a depressing thing for me, maybe because of the way it shouted shot, using these colors very effectively. It has very warm feeling to it which, as I've mentioned a few times on this podcast, is something I can about. I mean that that tends to enda films to me. And Yeah, the acting is great. It's it's pretty great film. I think it's. No, it's not my favorite, I think it's probably the favorite win, if we want to speculate. Oh, yeah, I think I agree with that. Yeah, I feel really, really liked for all of those reasons. They agree completely, I think when I'll talk of work class, of about the good that for them, of living in the Fabella and has a very reply. But that's the family itself, if it's middle class. And I think the thing I want to really pick up here if also the style that you talk about them. That is really the highlight of this film for me. And you have the emotional bond between the sisters as well. But I mean that that start. It's so evocative, it's so incredibly beautiful and it's vibrant. As I going to is a good work and I think it just it's also those films that, true its style, through its characters as well, managed to just become very emotionally evocative. It's kind of this paints this picture of the situation around this telling the story and just brings out and amplifies the vibrant and the central in them. It adds in this sense of essentially their life and the vibrancy and and there's their longing for something different, for something better and just, without spoiling anything, essentially being turned away at at any turn. So it's just so beautifully crafted and and also beautifully act and everything else. That's someone who's usually drawn to style. I mean it's one said a the way this film is shot. It's beautiful, it's different and it's genuinely its spectacular and something to seek out this film for the the epic story lines spanning decades also as well. I mean, this is really about the absolute highlights of this festival. I love having all the praise for an invisible life, because it is my favorite film at the festival for all the reasons you mentioned and many more. It is beautifully shot film. From the very first scenes were drawn into the close connection of these two sisters and it's really magical kind of poetic experience into a hypnotic use of color and music, some great locations and costumes. It's got this exotic feel to it and, like you said, Chris, the storyline that spans generations and it's a really emotional rocative story fits. I found it incredibly overwhelming experience and films like this. This is why I love film so much. It's these kind of experiences that really take you on a journey that you wouldn't get to experience in your life, in your lifetime, and it's just fascinating something that really resonated with me. I also want to bring up this home emotionally intuitive it is. It just what it cuts out as well, because it's not the film that does tells a straightforward story. We will have been completely melodramatic. It cuts out a lot of key points in the story and it's just jumps arm the specific from a specific events and emotions and feelings to others. You kind of have to feel in the blanks of the Times. That I think that's makes it even more striking and even more poetic and it really is an emotional epic. Yeah, and I do think the what you said about the vibe and see of how it's shots. It's really important that. I didn't really insist on that's but yeah, the use of color here is remarkable and it's really goes with the heightened emotions of the thing, which I mean it's a one of them. It's another shually so, and I think some people sometimes use with a drama as a pejority, but it's not. It's just the type of film and this is a great example of an a drama. I really love the sense of heartbreak and tragedy at the descent to the story and one of the things that really made it way for me was where I'm going. I'm going to go into spoilers aunt now. I'll, I'll, I'll leave that that. It was a great, really experience. I won't want to take that away from anyone else. So yeah, just watch this film, put please, through and moving from your favorite, the petal tube cures favorite with Brown collector. Do you want to then introduction for Alma?...

Yeah, sure, sure, so Bein. Hunt is an animated film, the only imited film in this in this section, and it's a Hungarian, iimated film, and it tells this story, essentially other man who is a psychiatrist specialized in art psychiatry. So he basically does therapy through art for his patients, and it so happens that all of his patients are criminals and it turns into very quickly it turns into a heist film about, you know, taking these pieces of art on all over the place and essentially it becomes this to be a therapy for the main character. But really the plot here. It works, it's functional, but it's not really the point. The point of the film is the style and the animation. Style CG animation, but it's has this surreal approach to it, the way the characters at an he has many characters with three eyes or with horse faces and stuff like that. It's very influenced by DADDAISM and surrealism and it has this this feeling of just kind of throwing everything at the wall and it's always moving. I think at first, when I started watching the film, I was a little worried about the quality of the animation. I suspect it's not a huge budget, and there's this first scenism a train and there's a snail on the window and it's just kind of looks terrible and I was thinking about this is going to be off. But actually, the way the director uses the theater, your camera, he's just always moving in a way that you cannot see the maybe sometimes low quality of the animation and it just doesn't bother you at any point because because it has this surreal feeling, it also helps make it all work. And Yeah, I really love this. It's it's just very funny, it's very enjoyable. I was just smiling throughout it. It's has this propulsive energy. At the same time it has this the story that works that's tells an emotional story about this main character, who is it's essentially a story about the transformation of power of arts on us, both for good and bad. It comes a lot of ideas into fill on and I think the animation style works really well because it incorporates techniques from the artist that are a reference throughout the film and I really enjoyed the surreal nightmares where famous works of art were come into life and terrorizing the the main character. There's just so many nice touches and flourishes throughout this. I really enjoyed the lounge covers of Britney Spears and radiohead. They were not what I was expecting at all and it sounds incredibly strange, but it works really well in this film. It's a very strange film, but it embraces its weirdness and that's its strength. Really, although I'm not a huge admirer of the art, will to per se. I think that it touches upon most of the famous artist that almost everyone's going to be familiar with. So there's lots to enjoy, whether you are passionate art fun or whether you're, you know, not really not really into that, but I really really enjoyed this. It's a unique and unusual animation that just does something very different, and I think and Bron there's also one of those that are quite quite possible winner off the festival. I think it's it's a film that the gets pretty universal praise. It was also a favorite among the programmer. Thinking of us, there the one everyone agreed on, and I really just want to spend a lot of time talking about this, the style here, because it's just essentially have pieces of art like that is the style. All characters are designed as pieces of art, stealing art, working about art, thinking about art. Is the film on about? Is this this key repetition of me at the elements? I think what I said about the film is Kipchen loving it, and it's just the style. Is What the probably the most unique animation style you've seen them. Rather to be more plain and less mombastic, it is a uniquely the signed animated film. I think anyone who enjoys animated films need to seek out through the brand correct collector, because it is unique in this way. Now, in terms of the plot, I agree. It works. I thought this was definitely the weak part of the film. I mean it really is a highest film and honestly, if you had changed animation style, I could. This could have been a pixar film. You know, it's like the incredible. It's starch off with, you know, this very traditional car chase between teeth, teeth and detective...

...with jumps and cakes and dances, instant escapes, lots of action, lots of little humor elements, and then it just ties in it, you know, so much relatively plain suspense and humor. I think it worth it's fun, it's exciting, it's it's essentially a popping for everyone, something everyone can enjoy, but it's just elevated so much by this unique animated stylished in this really surreal and unique experience which which is just beautiful to watch. And I don't think I'll forget the visuals in this film. Yeah, I didn't think of the incredibles, but you're rights. It's basically is a data version of the incredibles, and that's great. As well as being playful and funny, it goes to some quite dark places as well, with the nightmares and the psychological aspects and the exploration of of trauma, and it's really that that sets it aside from over animations. Yeahyeah, right from the start it definitely again artist from summage. That can be great, but it can also be completely traumatizing, and I think that's kind of what the thing is doing all the time. It's mostly fund chere. You right, it also goes into some harsh territory at times and quite successfunny. And moving on to the very last film of the main slate, the scene and the UN scene, with which is a fairly heartwarming it, though still pairly minimalistic and restrained tale of a set of twins, young twins, a boy and a girl. The boy has at the seas, it's slowly eating him away and the girl essentially tries to use imagination, player, playing into indoneath the and folklore and just exhuberating this kind of playful, youthful imagination versus, you know, the bleak reality, and I think it's a very interesting market. Think it has some very striking visuals as well, but it's also at least to be a bit of a slim film. So I liked it, but it's not one of the standout of the festival. Also, your impressions, I agree when you say that it's a slim film, so to speak. It's quite slow and pondering and a little really happens. The imagery is nice, although it didn't do much for me at all, to be honest. There wasn't enough for me to grab hold of, either emotionally or in terms of an intrigue in storyline. So, although it was great to look at and they were some relatively striking moments towards the end took me about surprise. Was One of the weak efforts for the festival. Yeah, not to not to grab a hold off is how I would put it. As well, I had a lot of trouble engaging with this. You know, it's very slow and ponderous, which is fine, but when you don't get into it it can get it all difficult to follow. Yeah, and and Chuse, you mentioned the Indonesian folklore feelosophy tight to it. Apparently the title this in Indian scene. That's apparently a key phisophic or concept in in that culture, and I felt like I was missing some pieces to maybe get this film. It's clearly about grief and it's using this, you know, it's these two twins and this whole metaphor going on with the eggs that has a lot of stuff going on here that here in the end. I just I think it's at its best it has this kind of entrancing effects which it didn't really have a me and you mentioned how it looks. This much of the thing and in a lot of obscurity that's going on. But she remark. But yeah, for a good third of the fame I just could not see much. So, yeah, I had a lot of pot with this one. No, I can completely see that. I think you personally, I'm more drawn into contemplatives in the model, but just being slow, it's not not I do think that the lingering scenes had an emotional resonance, especially as you can really the Shild acting here is actually really strong and you can really feel the bomb between them. I think it's done beautifully well and I think it's also a really nice contrast between the very strict back way the film is shot at greated and the more exuberant way of the young girl's imagination, and I think that's the highlight for me. I think I'm ultimating out on a lot of the cutural elements there with which might have made it in the better film. But it worked. But, like I said, it was a slim film. It's rendered me a bit. Maybe this is a cheap comparison to make just because of the region and and kind of the side, but it's when would be a bit of the themes of upshot, Bonga Stecle, which I'm not a huge fan of. All this what I've seen, and I'm guessing, chrease, you you...

...might like that better than me in general. I know that. Tom I think that's quite good comparison to make and I share your view on that, Matthew Bay, for these filmmakers really do much for me. From what I've seen. They both seem to have a lot that you can read into between the lines and interpit in various ways. But if a film doesn't captivate me enough to want to do that, then it's kind of failed from my perspective. And I can definitely see the comparisons to and I'm kind of brutal name, but the worth of that good. So I do think that aspect works. But, like I think we're all saying, it was a bit of the tooth in film for most of us. I think that is the reception it is getting as well. So that's actually the entire main slate and I don't think we can go through every other section in the detail, but the other any of the other sections that particularly stand out to you guys, and which ones are you most active in? My affinity for the horror genre ment that the just before dawn selection was on my radar soon it was announced. I'd always seen in the night each the world, which I thought was quite an effective take on the Zombie Genre. But the other three films rule new to me and I've got to say that bliss was this stand out there. It's another one that has this hallucinatory imagery and it's just a brilliant bad trick which focuses on a young artist who's is trying to survive and make it through the work that she creates, and it's really fascinating film from Joe Vegas. Interested to know what you guys thought of it, if it's one that you've seen. Fortunately, no, and I don't have as you for a horror right I I could never participated just before dawn with well, they got thereas the kind of gets put on the side. For me, Chris, I'm shocked and pulled. What are you doing? You need to investigate. Sorry. So sorry, potter. I'll forgive you this one. Maybe next year. You check out the late yeah, I haven't seen it and I think what's kind of kept me from going for that section is the Chinese sum have nothing against Chinese got busts. I mean I don't send to like them, but that's fine. It's just it's a sequel and I guess my personal completionism would force me to watch the previous films and that would be a lot of time sink. So I actually completely agree with you there, Matthew, because I've not watched the Chinese one, Eva and lower. Do you want to? Like you, I would need to watch the previous films, even if they're only loosely connected. So rather than get back and watching them, because we've got limited time in the festival and so many films that the wall of skipped out of the just before dawn section so that I could spend time watching more films from the other section. But I will hopefully still check it out sometime. What about you, my dear what was your favorite section and which ones I've been working on? Yes, I've been working on three years of sections. I've completed to the animation one, which is pretty strong, but there's not not a huge standout for me, I guess, in terms of what I hadn't seen before, I quite like the Jeush copy card, which is a Conumbian coming of age story. It's with a too minimalistic and massion style and I quite like that one. But I also did the Latin America section, which I was quite excited for. Generally this festival has a very, let's an American bend to it. It's kind of an older all the sections and my favorite there was a film that I want to spend too much time on because I think we might talk about it in another podcasts, but that's Bacajos de Vera no bos of passage. Oh, yes, and yeah, it's this kind of scarface meets it's Macbeth story. I think there's a very shakespearean feeling to it. It's gorgeous and yet really, really great. Like that one up and, as I mentioned before, the other one is from a section I haven't quite finish, gets the Europe section, and that's you look as of treasure island and it's a very simple documentary about how do you collect a leisure station and Leisure Leisure Station, I guess. Would you say that Tom Actually now you haven't seen it. I've not seen near it, so I'm not sure what you refer into. Less you's it's basically, yes, it does let. It's essentially like a it's not quite an amusement park with treasure island is that this man's returning with. Essentially that's the closed off beach area with some additional shops and and things into, you know, this magic called Dreamland, and I think this film that's so many really great things. I didn't love with the way you did. I think it has flaws, but like as this dispirital this dream of summer it is just works so well. Like it opens up, and I just loved opening scene with...

...the children that trying to get in. They can't get into because they don't have a guardian with them, so they sneak through a river and throughout this little mini forest to come out and discover the beach with kind of entry to this world. And it's just like this. All of these little mini stories and character plate to these people enjoying summer and experiencing this beach and the magic of the island in general, and at that part of it just worked so well. That sounds fascinating. It's one that I haven't chatil yet, so we'll try and get around to that. I also enjoyed a fire is tropical matthew. I found it quite similar in style to well, not necessarily overly similar, but it reminding me of Persepolis in a very great com page tail the really interesting animated style. So it did like that. Yeah, and just just to get back for a second on you has all, I think, a lot of what the part of the reason why I enjoyed it so much is also the con contexts. It felt very fish refreshing to me to see such a celebration of diversity, of you know, the kind of of well, for me, of friends, as a land where people can come and live from other places, which is maybe not always the case, but at least in this firm it feels like it because it's it takes place actually not not very far from where I live, in the Parisian region, and so it's mostly young people there, but because I'm not only but a lot of the own people who come to have fun in the Sun and and yeah, it's it's a region that is not super rich generally, and so it's very diverse, as you can maybe imagine. And Yeah, it's very positive overall, I think. I mean it's not naive, it's not a naive film, but it really plays to me like a celebration, as you said, of summer and maybe of the of taking the time, of leisure. Really it's a sevation of that and it's just lovely. I yeah, I was really touched by this film which, for such a simple documentary, is is, I think, quite something. I'm just having a look now through the other films in the European selection and I completely forgot that Corpus Christie was part of the festival, because that is a film that I saw either earlier this year or last year and I absolutely love it. We did go into it in quite some depth in the best films of two thousand and Nineteen podcast, so won't go too much into it, but it's a brilliant Polish drama, very bleak and depressing and very gripping throughout. So that is another highlight which I hope many of us have checked out during the festival, and the Europeans action seems to be a bit of a hint as well this year, with which is which I'm quite the happy about. It also has non fiction from Oliber our says, which I guess it's a slightly bigger film with special I says that the not but I think that's another film that I really enjoyed, or it does feel quite a bit. And what they tried to do, I know a say as well make a film about technological changes, and instead it has made a film about people working with technological changes and sleeping around. But I think it's a just think it's a film that's he sets it himself. Is inspired by Romer and I think the first opening, the particular, really struck me as the rum rescue. You will be just it's just such great, intense small dialog, because these people meeting up at norvlace, going to a cafe, and it's just so. It has this I guess you can call it selfpretensions or just all the fiction of the a kind of life, I'm sure, I say us it's familiar with, but in terms of just delivering a lot of quality dialog and set pieces with people speaking and in communicating, I think it's it's all those great talking films, even though in terms of this everybody's lips with everybody too, I guess it's very stereotypically French as well. Yeah, the conversations are about a lot of them, at least, all about the tender at the technologic or change. Oh, yes, and they are quite interesting conversations. It's a favery liked that and never knew exactly what the thin selts about these characters because, yeah, they're very stereotypical, very very much exactly the idea that you would have of pervision. It eats discussing these things and very dismissive. I don't know, it's it's hard to say. It's home to say if the theme is meant to be an indictment of these people or if it's just, you know, what life is in Paris. I mean, I know it's an interesting thing. I think it works well. It says little strange. I'm I'm not sure exactly what the tune I say yes, was going for, but yeah, I think it must works. No, I agree with that. I'm not going to go too much into it, but I think the section that's best for me, if the art how sectional, that's the section I go for...

...every single year as well by most of my affinities life. But this year it was a bit broken for me because I had seen three and out of three out of shore before the festival started. So it's just wasn't a pick time to this explore. But I mean in this you have pseudonyms, you have with a Lena Varela and you have sunset, as well as the dead and the others, which is the one that I hadn't seen and also the one that I didn't love the way. It is a very good indigenous drama, but these three other films are just wonderfully stylized like you have, especially, especially, I want to say this throughout recognation repair cost us with Alina Varela, which honestly is one of the most striking visual films of two thousand and nineteen. We didn't speak about it in our top five episode. It's it's not even in my top tens. This barely misses out, but in terms of contrast it's just so beautiful. I mean the contract is so strong that sometimes tastes are even a little bit hard to see, but outside that one floor it's just so striking, so unusually done, except perhaps for cost US general filmography, and it's just a film I think will be talked about for a very long time. So I think if you want to see something slow poet they can this visually stunning it. Please seek out with Lena Varela. I think it's quite easing to confess that I've not seen any of the ours have selection. I think it's my vision of the just before dawn bes if my turget. But but I think it's the great thing about the festival to the they really is something for everybody. Both jump to our NIESIA's men feed right. Definitely, and there are films within this selection that interest me, just not as much as some of the films that grand my attention in over section. So will hopefully be seeking out some of these films. But I mean that's the beauty of the festival to such a large and divers like there's so many films to get through. Even by the time the festival is over, there's a chance that a lot of the participants still got so much more to explore. At the risk of making Chris Mad I mentioned in the two thousand and nineteen episode that day in the Vada is probably the one I most wanted to see. After seven nineteen that I haven't seen. And here we are, what six months later, I still haven't seen it and I also missed Sun setence in the names in him especially, I was interested in but I don't know, I missed it in theaters. I don't think I could see them now because I mean the House section is, I think, the longest section. And Yeah, not still this for no be yeah, but I mean in terms of one time, because I looked at that. Fair enough, Trus, you know I have a limited amout the time in my life. So yeah, I don't think I would watch it right now, but I still would watch it differently at some point. Fair enough, and all recommended. And I also see the animated section. I tried to make this something I do earlier, I thought, because it's really nice to see the variety of animation selected, and this year they really did a great job in selecting for completely different animated styles as well. I wasn't a big Virius tropical as you I see the perceplis person, but it was to me just a very plain story elevated by the animation and humor set or didn't work for me. I think the one film I'most sad it didn't completely blow me over was the big bad fox and other tails, because the titler story in bit bad fucked which is the big bad fox. It's just glorious. It's really nice story. Probably that alone would have been the best of the festival, but the rest of the tales fell a little bit shorter for me. Yeah, it was also actually my favorite from that section. That the thing is I saw it three years ago and so I remember having a great time in hitter but yeah, I just couldn't tell you much about it. Let's just say, then, that the animation sell is absolutely past kind of trip back simple French animate. Just saw a walkative. It's about talking animals, which a it's large character gallery, different stories and I think it works really well. That we didn't quite love it. And that section also has the film that probably most talked about among cinephiles, which is bud well in the labyrinth of the turtles, which maybe isn't a stupid obviously just come close to but wells films, but it's it's interesting just because this is about put well and I think it's as a film is more of a personal drama, I supposed, with some really stick touches, but I think it works. Yeah, the connection. I enjoyed. It has a bit of a biopic problem in some sense in that it's kind of lacks a point. I mean it's nice to see a from about being read it. It's yeah, I agree, it's well done. I enjoyed it, but yeah, it's it has that imitation from yeah, I mean I think the thing it does really well is trying to show up well just being a surrealist to actually caring about something and just I think what does worked on extent. I think the film really works best as a relationship between but well and his friend. It's just this idea of him persistently trying to push into realistm and just essentially stub botasing.

This is very social project. I think that works to but but yes, it's agree that it does also suffer a bit from this biography problem. And I mean we should probably mention the I think the highest profile film in the whole festival in the Asia section from this journey in tonight. It's a film that I suspect will win the audience award. I think it looks like it. And Anyway, yeah, it's this film by The gun who made Katie Blues earlier on. I didn't mention it earlier because it's a film that I was slightly underwent by, maybe only because I love the Katie Blues so much and it was such a surprise for me when I watched it. That's forty five minutes or something. Long shot was just so impressive, especially not knowing beforehand. So when I watched from this Johne in tonight, I actually watched it in theaters and in D oh Wow. Yeah, and I don't know, it just wasn't as impressive to me and and maybe maybe it's because I was expecting it. This really was nice, I guess, but I did not find that it's transformed. It's that much. I don't know. It's a good film. I liked it. I think it's it's it has that quality that's can has mystic chord quality that kind brews had. But yeah, I just didn't fall in love with it as I might have aspected. Yeah, I can completely see that. I did end this long shot and I'm durn in tonight, especially when you know his gliding down that long line, for instance. It's there's there's an element that I could work but yeah, I mean I still looking at which more sections to jump into. I think Latin American might put Athid lie with La Laura being of the highlight. I think that's one that really drow on the suspense in the mood, even though that's also flaught film. But yeah, the next one I'm most likely jump into would be in the end. That's broadly because of a colony. Actually. That's the film that I really want to see from that section. Yeah, and it also deals quite nice with the indigenous population of the area and it's it's great storyline and quite a beautiful horfil film. That really struck a code with me. Yes, I haven't seen that one. It looks great in this section. Is when I hope to do before the end that. Yeah, that's feel very good. So good to hear another recommendation. Really happy to hear another recommendation. and Um, that note, I think we'll keep watching films this last week. Think there's a lot more to discover. I think there's lot of film shills didn't have time to speak about here, just for the purposes of making sure that this is a short, one size episod you can get out as fast as possible. In this share the use of these wonderful films that are programmers have selected for us. And Yeah, I mean I see im form film festival is held every year in November and December. It's absolutely wonderful. If you're not memor fies him from a and not participated in the festival yet, I mean please do. It's just such a weight way to find films, not discussed films, because you have these threads open for all of these sections and there's so many good takes and so many good reviews to read. So that's definitely recommended to all our listeners. Thank you so much for joining us today and we'll see you again soon. You have been listening to talking images, official podcast of ICM FORUMCOM The t.

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