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Episode 7 · 1 year ago

Eric Rohmer's Comedies and Proverbs Cycle, Part 1

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

SPOILER WARNING:

Our discussions are in two sets - one based on the basic plot and early development of the story - and then a dissection of the ending and the films as a whole. There will be a clear spoiler warning at the halfway point.

If you have not seen the films in question you can then skip to the next film, the starting times are:

Introduction to the Cycle: 00:00

The Aviator's Wife: 10:00

A Good Marriage: 35: 25

Pauline at the Beach: 55:00

You are listening to talking efictionsthe FFICIAL Poscat, Om, ICM formcom, all right welcome back everyone, I'mChris, and they will be talking about Eric Romers, comedies and proverb cycle.But one of my favorite Ari romal quote, is that the opposite of truth is true,and his Tinnema was truly one of contradictions. What Oue more that Rul?He was a practicing Catholec, frequently cited as a conservative butleading heheers to Cinnema and a set of Loghi Marxis film terists into acinematic revolution. His wirth life and whome life were completlycompartmental life to the point that Eric Roer was not even his real name.His mother died in thousand Ninenden. Seventy still believing he was, heEnglish teacher, and it is said that his vife and children did not meet hisclosest collaborate. There's UNPIL is that pet. This extremity carried intohis films. She saw each project as the bat if he had a tesis. That is an ideahe believed to be true. He went out to find delntitisis. Then he would letthem badlet out on screen, essentially the definition of tialecticoffilmmaking politely, more Igalian Demorxist, underneath his quiet,restrained, minimaly style. There is a sense of extreme Turvoil, but at thesame time I can't really think of a single Romer film that some level doesnot work as a comedy. Nothing is ever as it seems and is character. Askeropefully, UN eware of everything around them are lost in their ownpretensions and TDESIRES. This is there. The humor in comedy truly comes from.His films are filled with total meanings in Iroly, and perhaps none somuch as is uttrerly delightful commedies and proverb cycle, and I tinYo have so much fun here. Each film is building on and exploring the same coreconflict. The same Dey Electti divyou will the electtic of men and women theelectic of relationships, a the electic of love, comedisam proverbs. The cycle of sixfilms made betewenone thousand nine hundred and eighty one N, one thousandnine hundred and eighty seven in compass, the amator's wife, a goodmarriage, Paulena, the beach full moon in Paris, the Green Ray and myboyfriend's girlfriend. In this episode, we will talk youthrough each of the film dig into the smallest details and see how they buildon each other, comfradict each other and even complete each other with metoday ar three absolutely wonderful, coholt. Well hello! This is Clem fromFrance. I'm really excited to option about Oma. Today is film nature that Ilearned to love more with each fim y Sol him. So I'm really looking forwardto discusses Cydcood Wityou Gan esico house is our fantastic producer Adam,who hasn't been on the show, since the very first episode really took rower toget him back and I'm so excited to have you here, I Chrissia I'm rel happy tobe back. Eric womber is one of my favorite directors, and this is one ofmy favorite Seris of films. I'm really looking forward to discussing alldiferent films today and I'm very happy to be back on the podcast again, and wit us for the very first time tobe US Andtobeus, I'm twenty three years old and I'm Germman Danish. I agree alot with your introduction. I'm a huge fan of Romor and comedies and provetsin in particular, because you know omy its is most Romarian, Tso departure, ofcourse, from the Moll Tales, so o very free form, more light and COMEDIEC moretheatrical, as opposed to a stringean narrative, and that's what I reallylike about all of his films int, to see some proverbs as a bit ofresponse to the moral pals are so different and so similar. At the sametime, obviously, the moral pails all centered around a mam and Oan all, butone of the COMMITON proverb center around a woman, but more so somethinghas fundamentally changed, which is exactly what to we has talked about.You no longer have the first person narrator in a world. There are Largicertainof this vilyties into the free flow of the companies and proverbs.There's no one perspective. The Dynamics and the morality and whatthey explore just feel a lot freeor a...

...lot more open, ended yeah. I agree andI don't necessarily think it's stringe and Jualism, with the leads in themoral tals being men and the leads an he comets and provems being women. But I think it's more, this ot of this idea of being determinedversus not being determined so of the characters and Commenis on provebs. They don't knowwhat they want: That's sort of an overadcing scene that seems to runthrough all of the commies and proverbs. I'm not sure if it's the case that theydon't know what they want, because is, some of the characters seems quite sureof it themselves. It might rather be that what they want is eitherimpossible or a dream. But to me that also speaks to somedegree of confusion. For instance, in a good marriage, it seems almost like aninflection of manadded mots, because she makes the exact same ditay it's notas absurd as in mynated mods, where he sees a a girl in church, and then hethinks. Okay, I'm going to marry her, though he's never talked to her, andthen he stumbles into another woman wh. He spends anight with in an apartmentand in the film its Laricy is almost freigned as cheating in a way, it also feels like Romer,createed, commins and proverbs and call them Commisan proverbs, because he wastired of being misunderstood. Tham is characterized as overly moralistic andjudge mental, because that's how a lot of people saw his original moral tiles.They saw it as Romer expresssing, essentially traditional Catholicwelards, which is obviously part of it, but the counterpoint was always presentand I think that Romer wanted to in this one bray three of the constraintshe had in moral tails and really play around with Te Tsismanditesis in a more pre and animal creative or open way. Yeah. It'sinteresting that you mentioned being judgmental Chris, because for me themain thing I got o the film was the character study. So I think every filmwas a character study and I spent a lot of the time, judging the charactersbest on heractions. That was my approrch to the films. When I firstwatched the films, I think I understand approach as you did, Adem looking atthe characters, actions what they're whae doing what they were saying, whatthey wanted and judging them, but also, I think, the characters in all of thesefilms are very human. They make mistakes they're not perfect. They wantsomething that DEP can o paps can't nake rational choices. So in a senseit's like looking at real rare person's real characters, but the dialoguesseems very natural. Just like type of conversation you would was, you know,is a friend or with someone you just met, or sometimes you know, acting oknow, transway so yeah. I think that's what, as I find real fascinating aboutrumors philmography as reward and particula this cyclis just ow ow humans,and I rea or the characters Yim yeah. Just to be clear, I don't mean I wasspending the whole time negatively. Judging people, I was trying to look atthem as if they reveal people- and I think one of the main trinks of thedirector is that you can watch the film and really feel like you're watchingmeal people. With your conversations and to be first, some of them arealmost made to be disliked. So judging their actions is a normal thing to do. Honestly, the very first time I sawcommison proverbs that was ively curgshat characters as well, because Icame in with the framework of the moral path, but on retrospect thingand now I responded to them less as characters,but more as representations of ideas and positions that Romer wasplaying around with and that made them work a lot more for me, and I think onereally important difference there is that in the moral tals rumors seem tobe actively booking some of his lead characters like if you look at thecollector, for instance, Liv character is essentially lampoone from beginningto end, and this type of almost mean spirited mocker is not present incomedies and proverts characters do take. We can tuch that reallyharselyfor absolutely, but it's presented in a much more nuence ray,which also makes the films a lot more...

...open a lot more interesting. This does bring us up to the individualfilms themselves, starting with the very first entry into the series, theidiator's wife, which in many ways feels a little bit like an odd ducklingin the CICLE. It is the only film in the series that has a male protogonistand in so many ways it seems to bring over a lot of the idea Romer had before.Let us start with the proverb itself, which rings very true within thestoryline. You can', think of nothing, and this really seems to fit our latecharacter from swar perfectly. He is obsessed with a reason girlfriend namedAnn, and I say Obsesse because it's clear that the feelings are not mutual.The Very First Act of the film is him desperately fhasing after her to tryand inform her that he has found her a plumber, but she not even wanting tosee him or hear from him actively avoids every attempt until he chasesher down in a restaurant. The build APHEAR is incredibly interesting. Wesee him walk the street from station to station MI, see him, try to call withseed rejection and see his persistence, and it is toroughly hard breaking towatch to see him it put down so partily and then an obsession clearly stargedto grow. He sees her with her EG and he starts to follow. He X and amistery ofthougt starts to unravel. He said that our ROM is never making fun of hischaracters, but at the start of the AATER's wife, it almost feels like he'ssort of marking him or he's making an O. I look quite ridiculous, especiallybecause it's a plumber, it's exra ridiculous, but later on the filmhumanizes in much more H, he even comments to Lucy later on. He says Ilook ridiculous right, but he's obviously realizing that he's not doingwell for himself, and he sees that- and he knows that and it's quite humanizingbecause an sort of Leeds him on- and she doesn't treat him too nicely andalso because of the entire circumstance of his trip, which leads us ev more tosympathize with hem. In my opinion, because he's working night shos at thedisposal office and after finishing his shift, he waits for her. Then he seesyou know her ex and hes all these thoughts. He can realysleep. So hewanted Toun Paris and it sort of e Comsis deliriors sdream trip almostbecause he hasn't gotten any sleep and it's something quite relatable, but youI had this allte times I didn't sleep and then you know the next day, so thatbecomes Fregmentarysi ou become a bit delirious and you sort of you don'ttake in the world. Quite as you would, if you were a antalely right, I thinkit's an interesting point. Yo mention to be us about the dreams and Yocaracter working night shift and for esclap in different places. Actually,the fact that you Worki night chifts and Gosos Budy during the day reallysure that he is not only obsessed with love, is also obsessed with worcing ingeneral. Beto is during Thoday work at the post office during the night. Hehas girlfriend Hes, also looking for a premer for her, so he's always on themove or wast doing something. So if its really well with the provet, one cannotthink of nothing to go back onto dream toic. I think it's are interesting. TheFIATI form sleep. I think e Follo Ip twice in the film. If I remembercorrectly, the first one, the englan spots, Tischon, the Ex ofano and thesecond time is later on, when es with Resic in abenacafish waiting forthisthoand the mysterious woman to come out of what they figure to be thelawals office. And it's really it's really interesting, because we don'treally know for a fact that what we're seeing is real, so yeah. I think it'sinteresting Y R thing to add in your film with your character, forningtosleep and going in this dream, like antential, like to focus on a little bit herr, anwhich I think really separates. AMATER's wife from all othe Romer filmsis the way in is shockd because it has feeling and experience almost off a one.Take Film. It uses slow, brooding, Contemptli, im atmosphere to buildtension, fetolong from war walk from place to place with feel te tentioninside of it when he is fying on Christian and this woman he is walkingwith and is tracting her along. We see...

...him walking behind him in the street.Wo See him sitting behind them on the pus way of his feeling that we arethere. I don't think I've ever seen this in a Romerville before and it justworks so well and at the same time they get to the park and with theintroduction of Lucy, the film also get a bit of a childlike Madshik Col.wonder like it really feels like an adventure film, and I have an alsoreall love to hear from Alana because know that when he visited Paris, hewent to this park specifically because of this film. So this first of all loveto hear a little bit about how other has interacted with this film over theyears and also does his experiences inside of the park itself yeah. So Ifirst watched the film quite a few years ago and we watched it again lastweek my main memory of the film was was really onway thesins between Francoirand Te Se and actually she's only in the film for about forty minutes. SoLesson: half the film which surprised me and I think those sins are theessence of the film and it's the reason I like the film in the first place,because the start of the film and the end of the film with an and Frantwoirto me, they're like they feel like the kind of reality, the reality of adultwife, whereas when Fanswa its ginto see everything has a different kind of feelto it. She brings a kind of innocence and youth to it. That, I think, ismissing from the rest of the film and Luci was my favorite character watchingthe film just because he was playful and plesative were his friends wone andreally didn't have those kind of qualities. I think the park also feelslike another favorite character. For me, I don't have to explain it there'ssomething about the part that brings out so much of the film when I went toParisis Chris mentioned a couple of years ago. I went to the park and it'snot even right in the center of parish. You have to Hadd to travel a little bitto get there and it's just amazing park with, like so many different levels.It's just massive park and yeah. Just like the film itself, I think there'sso many different features and quolities Chris mentioned it didn'tfeel like any other romof them and I', not sure if I agree with that, itdoesn't feel like most of his films. I agree at tell you with that, but itdoes remind me a bit of his very arly films like the sign of Leo or theBakery Gal of Montio, where it's also sort of a character walking through thestreets of peris sort of bit undetermined, where Exactlis are goingsort of wondering searching for something. Also, Ayo survive very muchas the spirit of Nover VACFILM UNDE run. We just take a sixty billon Meta cameraand go in the streets of Paris, and then you just shoot. I think it'ssomething again that makes this film what it is it has this amazing mediacyportaken completely right O be us. It feels like some of his earlier films,and this also reminds me of a roler quote on the film itself. In the s we conquered the streets inthe S we mastered it. This really seems to tie in with how hecomposed the film as well. We talked a little bit about the moral tales nbetween that and comedies and proverbs. He made a custom film on a soung stagein Germany he made persival, which was an extremely geatrical film, and thenhe work in theater, including Catherine Elburn, and what he said it inport woneto do with this film was to compose people on the street as well as yecould compose them in the theater to take this place so well with how thescenes are done, especially introduction of Lucy, where we at firsttee her on the bus with no speaking lines. We Sei fron sor bump, interoutside the bus again with no spiaking lines, and then we see your essentiallywalk as an extra behinding butwith as pacify kind of focus, so in terms ofbeing able to state the outside world as well as I stage the theater a as Isaid, I think roller was completely successful. It seems like Roman risks on poppycrime novels are hiscart films almost in the encounter between Franswind Lucy,where she calld him a detective and Hes of plays into it for a while in awayplans genre film in his sort of ordinary slice of life, peace, which issomething really interesting because it gets our minds and spinning in thisdifferent direction, where the Avatos wife becomes both a mystery fill, butalso something completely or ordinary, on the streets of Paris. This is the one of the main way. Hesalso feels so different from most Roman films to get gendernly invested in themystery wo're. Looking for cluthes with...

...the characters like your Agan, aninvolved, you want to know more. You want to know who this woman is. When Roger Ibid reviewed Kislokis threecolors, he called them a think, an antidrama and Anticomedians andAntiromans, and that almost feels pliccable to most of the COMMINIS andproverbs as well whereis. This is in a way, an anti suspensefulm. It's acounter point in a way that draws this element, inbut mor as something that'shappening, intali in our minds or in the mindsons of characters as well.Tee' some base virusm here, but it's wide harmless, but in our minds itbecomes so much bigger and that's something veryer interesting that thefilm does it's aifit activates, the vieues, just I think originize feet ofa lot of formerforms spoiler warning it. I think it speaks a lot to the magicthat Romer maniste crate, that when in the cafesine Lucy so desays that shewill have to leave then see that from so is' able to cheep polloing Christianand the mistery woman that that there's almoys this sinking feeling, because atthat point the magic is gone. Beshide, like wonder, is Gome and what this leftis this clash with reality. I think it's really interesting that at thispoint, the films swhitch es to anserview. We see a few scenes settingup her character tirder before we end up with our two counterpolls throughoutthis entire film, from ynn meeting up in one location, and I think that saysa lot about the structure of the film as well, because the first two acts areso open they're out in the street. You can feel how it moves and how itinvolves you. But then, in the Final Act, you have these two characters andtheir emotions laid bare in a singular location with e doorlocked, and it isconstantdy of one of them will leave and the other stops them. It's almost alittle bit close or Foridtie. What we've seen before and this scene isjust generanly intense and it lasts for such a long time. You don't evenrealize Alon Te Class E, the Ly Wil last for about twenty to twenty fiveminutes, and it manages just cheap that intense feeling well also, in so manyways concluding and assessing both of these two characters and the events wehave been seen. It's a great catch with when lowisa ive a childlike wonderasgone. I just realized, that's the point when Enwa Trans from a detective into avior seddinly and everything becomes much much less fantastical and reallykind of averse t where he wants out of it, and the other thing is when he,when Confronts Anat the Entence, of course, O of what the entire firm saidsets up to. That is something something wrong in their relationship or wher he's, probably just some sort ofgetaway from the Va do some kind of replacement hat she doesn't really wantto commit to, and then they spick it out. But it seems that the finalconclusion is really what we all arealy know. So it just drags on for longer, and it's really quite sad for funs war,because he's stuck in a hole between two women which are just asunattainable for him in a way both and and Lucy, and it seems thatwhat the filmis sort of portraying is that e. He doesn't do himself any goodby not necessarily wanting to know everything sort of I just. He goessteeper and deeper down the rebit hole and he doesn't help himself at all. I had a lot of sympathy for fanscoasbecause most of the time an's on film she's telling Fanswat to leave and thenwhen we get to the bedroom scone at the end, she's telling him to leaverepeatedly and then, when Franch wet finally was to leave. She then' callsHin back. So I think Ann is not helping the situation. I think she just usesfun war when she, when she wants some to call him back and then the rest ofthe time Shor telin where to go. So I think it was quite a sad portraial, Ofriend Wer. I felt Ol IAI, I WATC sympe pyfo friends Wir, whereas I reallydidn't like an. I think I came away with a little moresympathy for Ann. I think that, especially in the early scenes, shewere giving up very strong signals that this that peop did not want to seeFransval, and I think she was consistently clear, Brout the film aswell, that it's not that serious of relationship but was at the same timeshe treats him horribly yeah. I mean you say it's consistent,but the reality is. She keeps giving him the same message and when he, whenhe does go to leave, she comes on back. So she is creating the problem. She knowshe's obsessed with her that he loves...

...her and by telling him to come back,she's opening him up to doing that exact kind of behavior again and again-and she knows when she needs someth. She can have them Okety much pot on inthat. However, I think in the first part of the film you don't necesssarily,see how Murch she cares for Christian, the aviator and at the end I think weget a lot more simpathy for just how Hart Brokan Sheis and how she needs someone, but obviously that someone happens to be fron, Swat,Sheis, essentially just her rebound and she doesn't seem to consider or Teverinparticularly wile. He pairs to love her or at least wants to love her and forhim it seems like a really extreme passion which just isn't returned yeah,I'm being a little bit harsh, I mean I did start to feel Sympifi towords on,because I think Annan fanswar in the same situation to some extent realyboth love, someone else who ultimately doesn't want to be with them, and Iwould agree that Transwis love for Van is, I think, calling in love isprobably wrong, because I think what you said was right, I'm not sureanything. He does actually suggests that he is deeply in love with hermoterand he's just obsessed with the idea of being with her. I also wantedto bring up the title of the film Daviors Wife. I think that's verysignificant, because theaviaor's wife is never actually on screen and to meit represent. The important thing to everyone in thefilm is something they don't have. So you know Francewell loves. She doesn't seem to care about him andlove Saaviator Bue Av it to staying with his wife. So I think thesignificance of the title for me is that everyone is dreaming of somethingthey don't have al. So just one thing on the proverb ofthe film there's a point where Francwois says: Don't you ever think ofnothing and Anne says I'm always thinking of something that somethingdoing nothing? I just wanted to highlight that in terms of he coveri,it may be the only time in this cycl where proverb is actually said almostin in the film think so yea. So it's as you mentioned it's interesting to to see that Conswell whos, let's saythe main character and to one to which the proverb should apply to ask thisquestion to to Ana. I know this. The cycle is about adding every time. OneNane poiknstant displine is should be a female, so an could potentially be seenas remain man Potechnis of this film, but I think it's o interesting to seethat consue is almost sens Fawere, that Heis always doing doing things and hismind is not not at rest at any point, and it's interesting to see that youalso ask what that she what he feels about it to see, maybe to see they'reon the same level. Let's I I think it's actual a common team thatYo'll get back to as you go through each of the films and there's alsosomething really hard breaking in that every single person in this film adeeply in love or deeply obsessed, rather with someone who does not lovethem, and I think this is one moreinteresting things there. I think he starts to realize that heegree ofobsession he displays is obviously extremely unhealthy. Becaust Onte the seene between them iscomplete. We see one of the more heartbreaking and things in the entire cycle where he writes: ULedder to Lucy, it's plaining what is found out, butit's o not sexually, quite interesting. That the woman who was wait- Christian, wasn't his wife nor, as most of us prois respected, andother mistress. It was a sister- and this also Tim e, something that Iwas really interestng were a couple of instances here. receumed we set up thatcharacters were worse than they were just as in the first sceneafter fronts, ofball and losy. The park we see and making a date with anotherman making us believe Sheis being unfaithful to frontal. This is latercompletely is brued. Similarly, when...

...the itentiday of the woman Christianhas been walking with is revealed e first tee a picture and forsball recognizs, the woman, hehas been following and the ASTUME SIS terwife and is, and its comnt and ansesno and she does know where to methis and for a second. We believe thatChristian has in fact have an other girlfriend on the side, but thenallusion and clues leads us to understand that it was in factinsisters. We get these two moments, wor characters. You perhaps had additionalsuspicions of reproven to be innocent. I love this ending because if I bittersweetend CIPL it is, he has this letter written unther. He goes to her place todeliver it in person. Then H, he goes back. He almost troze it in the trash.Then he decides O, send it with it. Stam it's real. Just such a simple down, toearth ining that INA waysays everything yeah. I think the ending seen that's my favorite partI'Llbe of the whole film, and I think it's real pestive Jesh they push it. Idon't know if it's a growth in the character or if I don't know for me, itshows a franc. Wi is a good person. Overall, I think the ending of the filmis pretty devastating where, as well as writ nock, this letter explaining hisdiscovery to Lucy and he goes to deliver it to her personally but as hearrives, he sees her with her boyfriend and they seem so happy and it US stopsand he looks at them from a distance and then they the park and the boysfrienvolks past him and for thinking here you almost think an he's going tostart following the boyfriend because he walks after him, but instead me seehim, go to a train station, consider throwing away the leather, but then, inthe end, mals it and and there's so many different ways to interpret thescene. Is it filst war getting a new type of obsession of I lus instead ofan or is it his way of simply closing this chapter getting distance betweenthem and letting this be the end. I saw as the second one gress that Isart in a presantive way that he was letting go and him posting the letterwas just his way of letting go. Obviously, the other thing I wasthinking of it was mentioned about how fancoir I ju start as working in somekind of post office, and I think, that's important, because the finalscene of the film, both Tan's Whi, posting something so, I think, there'ssome kind of link between the start. The first thengand, the final scine when Chris Mas Talking, I had to thinkof quote from James Joi Doberness, which I I think applies to Frense wisecharacter quite well in a way which is also quite devastating. I feel likereading it right now he looked down the slope and at the bases ind the shadowsof a wall of the park. He saw some figures lying thouse, penal and furtivelovers, loves filled with PILTOM WIT, susparr ignored the rectitude of hislife. He felt that he had been outcast from life's feast in a way that perfectly incacallitsfons whare. It is quite devastating, but tit's. Also something bit is weetabout it, because we don't know hat. Does he realize now that? Okay, maybethis obsession isn't healthy and maybe I just kind of have to figure outsomething in my life to be different yeah. I also thought seeing luseyounger boyfriend together represented something that Frence Wer Hobbay hasnever had and something he might never have as well. Thatis. Quite sad, actually, I think afunny thing is that he actually, let's say, sow something you didn'twant it to see twice in a single day at first when he goes to and to leave or note and when he goesback, you see her with thistop and the second time when he goes to Resi togivers e letter. She seis her with her boyfriend, but I think it's interestingto see that it seems that at the end of the day is still lookingfrom afar. You know in a way relationships and well it didn't really learn. So thislesson in a way I wonly, my interpretation of the filmwas that he actually learned to lesson that he got ha clear picture of what hewanted and that as ippose the film then...

...poses the question. Can he think ofnothing and he actually changed his life around and I love yeah? I sawin a positive way in thesense that USICI was acceptance for me, I kind of touched on it, but hin postin the letter is accepting in the situation I feel like the ening is veryopen. You could read it both ways like he has learn something or maybe hehasn't ruarn anything. I think that's also the perfrate tioverto the next film, an the cycle, a good marriage, because I ceel itposes theexact same questions and Yiu can go away with exactly the same centralconfusion. The proverb in this one is a little interesting can be of US refrainfrom building castles in Spain, Ewe FY. The way it is a really fun throwback toDavider's wife, Ror Lucy in once in the part literally says that her boyfriendowns castles in Spain, but was likly more serious note. This film isincretivly, interesting and works on so many levels. You have a young womanwith a boyfriend in Paris and she lives in the suburbs she's a similarsituation to fonsaw in sense that she works and he's a student, and she isn'ta pont in her life where she doesn't really have it even sothing and thedrama- and this film comes from her sudden idea forth by her at a time,boyfriend answering a call from aife separated from that she would like toget married, and this is actually a second extreme obsession even moreextreme than Francoir. This IL essentially foses the question: Can youjust intend a new life for yourself, complete new purpose, Bi subduned, thedesantes e folow this fantasy and have it succeed this storis really strange?It's really comical. It's really forcigo, because Sabbene or leavecharacter just eside I Lokan barried at first, she doesn't evet seem to carewho she gets married to. It is just the basic idea of marriage, her friendinteduced her to a man and suddenly it is all about this man. This man willmarry her, no matter what I find it very interesting that thefilm hesitatle a good marriage, because from what I can see a much in the filmso being is not looking for a good marriage at all. So, for example,whenever quorts in the film is Laker or not, he'll be my husband, you know she.She has an idea of what she wants in a marriage and that's what she's goingfor and what her concept is of a good marriage is certainly a long way awayfrom what main is. What's really interesting is her friend clerice seemsto be the one who actually has a good marriage, Hisa being a certainly aninteresting character. Maybe something that's I'd like to point out, as the tesituation is again like ans. Was It preparious because she's studying inperrous she's just about to finish her degree in arts and she's living inlhemonths and working there, and I guess commuting ther every week backand forth, and it's a really long commute so TAF. It's a lot of timespends in Fransit. She doesn't quite have a real home anymore. She doesn'tlive quitey, Fil, aof, the family anymore. She doesn't really live in herstudying place in Paris and now she's sort of looking for something seady,because right now, of course, she's. I think almost thirty and she has to sortof star set up her career. But of course, MEARC is a quite a volatilefield as wellshe's in a very uncertain situation, which she's nowhere in a way,and so this prospect of marriage is, you know, extremely economical for her,where she sort of makes up this plan where she would have his study home inParis in a great neighborhood and everything. I think this is and theoutsit extremely interesting, but I also think the Omin a way it fellsomewhat, because it's so farsical, it's maybe Romis, most passical filmthat you ever made for me because sebenus there's a lot of reasons toempathize with her but rom my place it as far as too often. In my opinion, Ialso thought it was very difficult to ampifize, which had been becausethere's one moment in the film I started. I feas very sorry if hi habeen and then straightaway. She then hits into an older lady and is reallyvery good to her. So the moment where I finally felt some kind of emphathy forher was taken away. Five seconds later, Sebin does come out of bit character.Let's say she get this ucsession like confirm us. She absutely want o getmarried because of that. Well, her mind is building castles in Spain and whenshe needs Edmo with the Alpof plice, a friend in lemont, she becomes. Wealmost obsessed with him in a way is...

...interesting because she talks a fewtime to tell Isso about his moand. I she's not that interested in him andshe doesn't want to be the one chasing up to him and he should be the onemaking moves. But later on, I the next scene, we see her CONINGAM at hisoffice atury trying to engage with him at first. She had on his cuses becauseit concerned her work and the fact that he was looking for a particular type ofvase that, when over client sad, she actually even got into travel. For thatand I to resign from a job because of this, which is an interesting Tcene,because it shows that chicken get quite impunsive because Sheu just crat herjob and even though manager uple shop tell her that he to j chken state thatshe preferred to just beleve and never come back. OBROAD SEDIN is dencesincharacter. I can help but feel you know bit sorry for her. She prualy wants tofeel security. She wants to add something. There are a few discussionsabout marriage throughout the film TT, where Sabin another protagonist givestheir poarnt of view. Often they do not agree with one another. I think she'sstill a very real character, because once again, I'm sure you know everyone.Well I don't know, but to me at least we all have our mind. Sometimes y wantRin, building huge things that Indiana yet crushedgumored, because you knowreal life is not just taking our head yeah. For this reason, I guess I feel abit of sympathy, poer nbuirding. On previous comments, I mean, I think itwas one of the weaker films in the series, because to me it fell less realthan the other films, because Sabin just didn't come across as much as areal person Bo most of theoer characters in the series I could kindof understand where they were coming from. Even if I didn't like thecharacters, whereas of subenes she just I felt a bit more like a kind ofcartoon character. It was just a bit too pasical a bit too ridiculous. In myopinion, I think your pot onatem. I think that's also why it worthd for mein a way a git marriage is the most theretical of these six films, so Wendoesn't feel as much of a character as representation of just this idea of.Can you bring this absurd, Besa fantasy into reality and clamport out that Jasso many discussions with other people brought the film about her fantasyabout your ideal and watfor nothis in is that everyone peaks against herideas, everyone thinks or ideas or to extreme to silly permoder stresses justhow profensors are essentially from hundred years ago and wanting to stepback into antiquated genderroles and what's also interesting here- is thatIstotin, the first one is th per fantasy slowy stars becoming more realat first jeas is just genderly absurd Hof, I'm nust going to get married. Itdoesn't matter to who I just want to get married, but then, when she startstaking to her best friend Clari's and her mother etce, this fantasis starseto revolve so soon she's also looking for love, then she starts looking forways. It would work where she can work. That includes going from a situationwhere she teems to Tis want to be completely dependent on the man, a d bea homemaker into starting to see ways that she dosn'tfill herself in terms ofwork lateer as wells. Essentially, she becomes more and more grounded. However,I think the main comedy in this film comes from the fact that wher fantasyis consistently disproved er relutions are consistently thrown in her face. Ifyou see her speaking with Quloris, she has this dream of being chased beingmomantasized by a man, but Edimont, of course, is always the one running awayhe's not that interested in her perttising Tovaut Adam point outearlier. Did something strange happens there, because at first Sodin says I'mnot going to chase after man? I will never chase after a man, but soon shelooks into ways to get in touch with him and arrange the first dat that shecomes up with his convilutethe idea, O selling this vase, and she believesthat after this she will pull back. She will be the one that just steps awayfrom the situation: an Adhem, a ell become obsesswiter, but instead teopposite happens. She becomes successed with him and genderly thoroughlyobsessed when she started polling his office again and again again andAgainan Mi Gan to the point where just like in the case of front fall, it isjust clear that he wants nothing to really do with her. I think I can certainly relates to allof the commens that happen sat now and especially with regarding what clamthat. Maybe I should clarify that from...

...an onser that I have a lot of sympathyfor her situation and also for her, I guess sort of childis dreams where sheset. This isn't Tiplod I find is both veryrelatable and even sort ofsympathetic. I think it's something that's maybe often MIS portrade, alsoGod tiggers. Of course I've Ben Ake extremely negative Hanentationr,something like that, but I think it's as an Ousit, very interesting to SartTig into that and lend some sympathy. Tou of that, like Francicis, I think myfavorite scene in the entire form is a birthday party scene, which is bats ofan amazing scene, but unfortunately it plays her like a first again in whichshe sort of becomes a little girl and Roma stagus her an this sort ofprinceless dress, of course, kind of symbolic and then place sof, electronicmusic, which is thinking one of the interviews. You remarked, okay, that'smy idea of what people in the subburbs this in twuss is kind of Kon ofcendingin a way maybe- or it feels like that, almost an on of the interview he talksabout, I can portray middle class environments in Paris which he doesgreat and then maybe at this tretch working glass environment, and this isame working class enaoment and it feels like a stretch for him. Maybe thit's,not something that everyone would agree with. Maybe try something along thelines of what bunel could do where he mistreats his subject, so much that theaudience will send up for them. I don't feel like that's quite what comesacross here. Maybe one good example of wher film sort of fall, shot thete's,some very nice frame of her in the subway. She looks out the window, but Idon't think this reverse shut or e actually see her point of vew andactually that's sort of what's lacking in the film Wat Room is usually greatand ad situating sort of his is actions just where we are wheres in this film.We get a lot of talking just not enough environmental shots. I think maybe someof the film is a shortcoming in the Cilemotography, because what were tgreat in Evyeder's wife, which was such an immediate story, doesn't work sowell here, where it's more read out over a longer period where thisimmediate ciense is clain yntrography doesn't do it quite sus justice o shutby the same guy. Of course, as the vads wife, then D, You teach and I feel likeamong the Cimotrographers for the Omen, decent provence. He certainly strikesme as the least sophistical, and it's very plain, and that doesn't lead tothis FOM agreat service at agree with that part. I think that,out of these six films, a good marriage is the one that is the least visuabllyinteresting and that's quite unfortunate. I agree entirely and Isort of want to keep o most of what say its negative. I, like the Tong, quite alot, spoil e warning. What is realy interesting here, though,is that Bot avid his wife and a good marriage has the exact same ending theyplayout slightly differently, but tha setup is identical. Our led characterconfront their counterpart inside of a closed room that goes on for far longerthat you would imagine, is including one of the characters consistentlytrying to leave, and this back and forthware more and more of thecharacters or evealed until all of their motivations are laid bare. It'snot shorter in the IATE is life as about twenty twenty five minutes hereit is about ten minutes, but what tit does is identical. It's esis the exactsame degree of tension and h Jus this the fact that these two films end inthe same way and also a not were written. At the same time, Rome hadboth scripts Readhi side by Sideen Te starten a cycle. I think thisconnection is really interesting to me. It also times in with what WEU talkedabout that very beginning of opposing forces clashing and then findingassentusis. The ending of the film is Al, so alittle bit optimistic, let's say because, even though it won't work withISMO, the film end with Av been in a train and she noticed a guy that shealso sa at the very beginning of the film. In the same, the same situationis the same train, so the ending compared to the avetors wife, where Ifelt like the ending was a bit pignigmatic, at least with Woithknarriage. I think the ending is a bit optimistic and maybe Sabine will beable to after all, find what she want and be able to get married with thatperson she still haven't met on the train. I think one of the reallyinteresting things there is that, similarly, to the way terices ive endedwith from well potentially learning from this. We follow this top process alittle bit further in a good marriage where, after her bizarre illusion ofthis perfect relationship to Edmone who she had met, perhaps three times comescrushing down. She, storms out of his office, she's completely embarrassedand she goes back to her friend and...

...suddenly her expectations and her goalsand her perspective has changed previously. He thought that nothingcould have worked with her exboyfriend Simon this time. She realizes that thatwas perhaps quite a reasonably good relationship. She stops talking inequally extreme terms and this taes back to a conversation with her moltera little bit earlier in the film where Amoer claims that he's going from twoextremes, one in that sense being simply being with people without theintention of perhaps thever becomiganting more into a completeobsession with marriage. Here at the end, he seems almost well rounded,which is a very interesting and also very possibly bending in many ways,even though, of course, he has been utteredy and completely embarrassed like this. Also, at the ending Iremember, reading in the interviews that Aromacetrin the ending signifiesthat is ready for a new adventure to me that sort of demonstrates that he's notintentionally doing her in a very negative pay, though in the formsometimes comes across that way that he doesn't have such a fettering portrayof her, maybe thiss, not necessarily intentional his part all the time. Ithink he certainly wants us to feel for her as well O. I don't know if the filmis always successful, as I I think this perspective Er speaking ofhis also really interesting, because I suppose the question insame way as thequestion of Fron saw, is what this their next step did. Franwit, learnanything from his experience with and locin will he be able to move on andfind love, and here will subbein, because the first time I saw this film,my reaction at the ending when she sees this Manag. He smiles at him at theprain was Oh, my God. Here we go again, please know hi's going to be asubsessed it's going to be a repea of the previous story, but this time whenI saw the ending, I thought she has learned from this. She no longer hasthis impossible ideal or this abtourd fantasy and you wild actually be ableto find love. Also key difference at the ending isthat she just meets a random stranger w. She doesn't know anything about, and hejust smilts at her, so t feels to me obviously different wheres with etmand.She knew othe time that he's a lawyer he's quite well wealthy. He lists in avery nice neighborhood in in parison. I think that ties in a lot with hermotives, Roud the film as well, but I think, understandably, something that Idon't think necessarily makes you view her in a bad way of because shes she issort of in Thi picariosy situation and she seesthis as an possibles paper. APSYeah, I feel like the ending is a lot more open wher. She just he just smellsat her and that's more spontaneous R, more reeleless bound toshese obsessions.I should say I don't know if it's necessarily learning or if it's justsome kind of Kayow I go on about, is completely different withoutnecessarily having having taken in a DEEPA lesson, but I think it's itllcertainly be different, O the future. An this will tie s over to the nextfilm, but there's also an interesting observation we had here, which was thatin Davider's wife he consistently walkd from train stations and into traidstations, as we never see him on the train in a good marriage, we always seete being omnot range es, always traveling Hes, always moving, and Iconsidering that Romer wrote these two fields at the same time and given howparticular he was, I really think that I's trying to say something about thesecharacters and state theyare in in the other verse fronts of Wall, not beingable to think of nothing always walking, but they've Bein able to move on and SAbeing always traveling, but not being able to truly settle down, and this motife of trains and movingwill continue through tremaining for films as well. Another interesting thing about theending, I think, is when you look at to proper associated with a good marriageand which is Comenian of US refraing from building Castos in Stan and now that I think about it. Maybethe ending where there is this one giy sitting in front of her, that wealready saw before he smiles at her shes miles at him and maybe from thatsimple smile or that simple look for simply the fact that you were pice inthe same the same train, maybe Seben once again not be able to refrainourself from teding castles in span and so starting to build this relationshipwith this strenger. She knows of nothing. I think it's also interesting how thePROBERB is framed. Can any of us, in other words, robl, could be tryed toinvolve all of us and ask us the question if we also name in side of afantasy world or if you also have any...

...of these bizarre and disease, which Ithink care is US perfectly over to next film pulling at the beach, where thecharacters are literally away from vocation and the proverb in this filmis a wagging tongue bites itself and on the surface, this is a fairly simplefilm, a woman, an EIR cousin or on location. They meet up with a man thattooler Dusin used to have relationship win Pefora of Meriatis currently in theprocess of getting divorced, and they meed an older man with him that soasypresents himself as a little bit of a lady's man and a lot of things start tohappen. talistically. This film is very different from the two previous,obviously they're, no longer in a city or a village youare at right, bouttofulbeaches, but the composition also feels a lot more harsh. It bis a lot moreinhuman and it does this while building a strange veb of adulthood around orlead character. Houleen the younger cousin who, in most of the film and Isaid, to be more of an onlooker who, similarly, he to previous films as anexperience with the opposite sex, but I'm a huge fan of Puling as the beachit has for a long time been one of my er favorite Roma films, and I thinkanother reason it looks so different is because this time a room is back withan SA and inderess who collaborated with him on basically all of hisfeature, films from lacklecttenews up until the mackey of O pot. All of thesefilms right, you have thes quite sophisticated compositions, oftenworking wondrous with natural light, and I think what idoll knows aboutAmindos is his simplicity. How he's so economical at how he threw very simpleacts, sort of transforms the visual narrative tothe interesting, how playintebision many ways plays back Eric, romors moral pal T in a flitway. Sowhat we see here is that pauline and Ercason Marion met up with these twomen, including the older cousin Ova. If he will, his name is Henry and hereally incompasses all of the pretentious troumanistyc charactersthat roller was mocking in the moral tails, and we see him start arelationship with Marion. I think it's really interesting how thisrelationship is shockd. It feels almost grotesque, especially the newd scene.wheres just ripping her clothes off and it feels like their statures is feelsfor bothtic. It feels like I seen from a Robert preson film, a couple ofthings of Olvl here for staugters pauline doesn't like Henry at all. Shethinks he's a bit of a creep o think she thinks he's too old and she wantsMarion to reconnect with her previous boyfriend Pierre, and this is alsowheye. We start seeing some connections with Daviator, because Pierre isobsessed with Marian. He has the same longing eyes. The shame chase atd. Theplot structure actually follows a relecantly similar pattern where themidsectionof th film actually is, is detective or dissoluting into whetheror not Henry has been unfaithful. The different series that we noted from thestart he oftendeed 'N, faithful, which does feel like Rome, is flinping thepremise off David aspive, jus no longer to Spende, there's no longer mystery,yeare, simply following Pierre and tried to figure out what actuallyhappened. Ef like in this piece, the attentions much mere derived from theinterpersional relationships, because I feel like on my God of the othercomedies and proverbs it's much more, an ensamble piece for we il followPauline and Mariang and go on vacation together, the start in the Nomandy andthen they sort of meet here, who's, Marien'es, old friend and WHO's sort ofin love with her but she's, not as interested in him at all and he's quiteidialistic and she's a bit more secit asn't come so she's. Also in some wayIDEALISTC then she falls for onothe. WHOS, of course, is entirely free.Spirited Guy ordiensely pretends to be WIC, Orof says: okay, let's the entireworld abrutes itself and Soroffassis Attitude Okan, my house: Is Your Houseuse it as you want there's a very nice scene where Alene JS meets up with eGuy Ot Suvanza and they sort of have holiday Romans, which I feel like isreally what is at the heart of the film but more and that later, there's a verynice scene, just aften they meet at the beach. They go to ares place where theyput on an LP and then at first try this...

...sort of an aesthetic wideshort of themsending around there, and then this they start dancing and the camera soselswaying around with them. Then there's, I think one other shot of them, dancing,n close up, then alhe comes in and then it's a wide of them going up. So it'sjust this entire one and a half minutes seen in free shots, which is extremelyeconomic and puts us directly in there with the music and to swaying cameras.It's supremely romantic and Supremelie or SOT. If at presenting us, is moodone summer day moved. You know tree spirted, love and everything, and thenthey could go up. Ore Meets with Maryan tells her about that, and then theysort of interrupted before anything. Much else happens afterwards. This tutswith Marion and alte an en lisettes who already cheats with because he's of hejust chases after all, girls sort of it doesn't feel very, very bound.Necessarily though he knows it would hurt Maryanen, he tries to hide thefance prove Lousette, hiding with Suvan or to Aly, pushes them into thebathroom and then pretence s. So it was them who were together and not Oy andLos at and prus sort of this holleen becomes initiated into their love Games,which is to me really whan, is at the harroses film, it's sort of an anticoming of age. Film. If you want in most coming of Gh films, for instance,also in Smalis Pilats, I know am more, which is made around the same time,which is a wonderful thum, where at Te Stargshe sleeps with some dao and thatsort of initiates, thei coming of age, and here it's much jus the opposite.Poulin doesn't sleep with, as you know, but she still loses her innocence, notby sleeping with some guy, but by being initiated into the love games of theadults. I think it's also very interesting tosee that all the sex and Romans and explanations are going in the same sameplace in obios ups to dik a bit more in Bat, onhis character, it's not acharacter. I particularly liked, even though more or less takeresponsibilities. Let's say for or is action toward the end of the film. Itseems to me, like o start character in a way said it himself Lik. It doesn'treally have any any house. He prefers to say lis divorced, be, has a Chidthat he sees from time to time, but not sa often overal. It seems like a verysad character who has no connection with anyone, because it doesn't reasseem to be able to do it. It doesn't. It probably doesn't truly want to do iteither spoken a lot of beauty here, but mostof the main things that consistently came back to me was just how stiltedand false dispute they felt throughout the entire film. It feels very much like this, acontrast built between Poulin and the adules she's, the way, the wisestcharacter and really performance of Amanda Lang Lik. That amazes me an thisfom, because now she seems so sort of Fur, an maive, a natural and Sotofright a attend, and she petrayes that incredibly well again, she's onlyfifteen as the actess as well and at Ha Sart es the scene where all of thecharacters they sort of talk about their love ideals, a with ory and PRand Noiol R Polina sort of left out he's just sending around. I think sheis in frontof, O fireplace and often the camera leaves heround as well, soshe's, not in the frame the last of time and then at the malion pushes herjust to say something to this Evon, though it really doesn't interest herto just talk about as a pro et passage. You know you talk to much, you hurtyourself. I feel like it's also what happens later on that all of the talkabout their affairs and sup damaging their affairs ale other talk about thelovelike, so the forgotten, and I feel that with Poulin and so in a way it'sinnocent, like what makes it not innocent is Pulin getting involved inthese love games and I think that's a fascinating, conflection and sort ofunder genre forcoming of h film, as usually its much different serf, thesymbolic acts of having sex. But here it's the opposite, it doesn't happen,but she still loses oriosense, it's not nature as its poisor but society. One interesting thing: All that Ma youactually pushed Putin to Jun to conversation. They were having and togive hour opinion on Lov, and it seems that it's not the only thing that Malunis pushing grin to do. It seems like she's, also trying to get off her Bach,because the obviously stiding not with he and it seems like the solutionmalion found- is to tell Pierre to try and seduce screen. So it's interesting.We, the morality that say of trying to have someone a bit older, though tryingto opsex without fifteen. Sixteen years old, even though I not Tule Nayo wasthinking about about success and she was just Tup trying to get jail. offherback, as I said, and to give him a new...

...possession and why you would be tryingto seduce Pulin, she would be belone to be able to do whatever she wants with o.In my opinion, fun does something quite radically o because Josephs the firmporins perspective and she sort of in both them ie literaltures, O o fifteenyear old goals, are very maginize group that really sort of the theintellectual or the the emotional center of a film that and often heysort of played for ours. Kint of like Roma, does in a good marriage withthesection that sex, I close to thirty, but he plays like a wo girl and heasmuch the opposite, where paline choos much wiser than ord of the adults andMoked much more easier to sympathize with her, and also the. As you say, therelationship between Pierre and Poulina is very interesting, because Mariontells cear to try to Seduce Poulin, and I agree entirely with with you aboutthe motivs andsead of how she reacts to that, and it's obvious that yeah, it'snot really very interested in doing that. But what does ensue a sort ofthere's a genuine friendship developing between P and Pollyn, where it's veryinteresting how it'st portray you rally see that an in film so that they sortof they have in Alov ways of friendship, that's sort of on an eye level yeah,it's not really the like a mentor for Polin sort of someone who also veryvaluable things. I certainly feels like he's sort of has to protect her andtake a Rome later on when when he brought her some place. But then Polinspeaks up for herself and says I didn't know, that's actually, no, I'm not withmy parents, and I want to make my own decisions- and I love this perspective-that Romantikes in this fom, where he emphathizees with Halin. So much thathe says. Okay, now, fifteen year olds, hey, they have a mind of their own andhe empathize with that through portraying her in that way of sort ofgiving her very much an eye level with the adults. Instead of taking her tothe table, yeah ther's, something I like very much about the film. I sawpollen really being the moral center of the film you had all the oldercharacters, engaging in really quite bad activities. I mean Henry wassleeping with everyone. He could basically PR was obsessed Marian and wehad this crazy situation of maryand trying to hook up halween and PR, and Ithought Paulin Really Shun Fhrout as omorral center. She acted in a real, abetter way, I would say than all of the adults, even despite her young age ormaybe because of her youngerjactually like Lucy in avater's wife. I think shewas one of the really strong characters in the early films of this series Ut. I think at tit's an interestingconnection bringing up here, which is that essentially both Daviters life andplate at the beach. The adult logical conclusions are some park coming from achild. Awa also really happy that the clam cleared up some of the slightlysleesier scarer aspects of Marion trying to get here and Bulli together,because that's he one thing that was, let's say, felt a little bit out of it.Thik ieer talk about e other about this Bot fromthing you about lat. What'sgoing on in France, because in Avi ther's life to toos an old Roman tryng,to get the adult man to go over a fifteen year old, so we were a littlebit taken aback. I think she just wanted to get pr awayfrom her and was quite selfish about how she went about it. I think she alsotwusted Pierre not to treat poen badly, whereas due who ends up apaling is acomplete stranger, but certainly Marian has very questionable morals in thefilm Whenh she's supposed to be looking after her I mean, even though she'scousin is more, I an anthis kind of relationship, I would say then a cousincousin Rwaicienshim. The olhy thing I thought was somewhatinteresting in terms of sying Polinas. The moral center of the film was, ofcourse, that the younger boy that she gets entangled with in their very firstmeeting fast yeas a girlfriend at all, but he still started his romanticrelationship with him. So the thee are always discounter points to everysingle hypothesis. We try to make off the films which I ges, this Roersantitis working yo perfectly well as a contradiction to everything I thinkspecifically, and that seem so onsr sort of portrays it in a way. So itwouldn't be very serious. But what one thing that Adams come and made me thinkabout worse, that pehaps there's something thit happens back an wrsoonwas that rum at portraying his younger characters, his fifteen yearold gols, as so moral centers and the wisest characters ind the films,something about society sort of spoiling. The adult characters spoil he warning. This is an interesting time with theending too, because the ending to Bolen at the beach is essentially the exactsame ending, as we saw on the aviators...

...wife and in a good marriage. Thecounterpolls are meeting in a closed faith, but the interesting thing hereis that it is not Samarion meeting Henry or Pierre. It is hollen alone ina room with the three men in the film very young, Sami Boyfriend, Pierre andHenry, and it playe out exactly the same way. Some characters trying toleave some characters tryng to stay, and this scene is prolonged andprolonged and prolonged, and it has his bace conclusion. Repalin sitting isfrostratea about Pierre trying to stand up for her and saving. Her stays withHenry appear finally leaves with her San my boyfriend and her art and Paulinis left with Henry, which in many ways is her counterpark. She is the youngesthe is the oldest, and, to me, this character really just represents themale eagle male perversion: Peas, essentially everything about the maleworld that could scare or put off a young girl. So from I respectum atleast, the film has her meet with the three men in her life: Three DifferentPersonas, if you will all with different flaws, all with differentamtagonisms and these tagnisans talving themselves or resolving themselvesuntil she's less with the main atagonist, and they have a harde heartthat it's really interesting is these true characters start to communicateand pulling get a bit of glimpse in the inside of a adult mine and tjust onemore poit of this that scene when Henry comes into Pauline's room, wot hissleepit, this fisten wodgo sleeping and he's in his S, and he starts climbingon top of her bed, kissing her Leke, that that is just so genuenly unnervingand it's just so good to see him kick off in that way. Yeah absolutely. Itwas very satisfying part to see im pit in the chest. Putting is yonly womanthat I know he has 't lad pes, and I think that should be somehow pood topuin credit that she was able to see, even though she's young and experienceand is adding slightly more to how leasy henryly actually is in the earlyscenes. He is with his daughter, his young six, seven year old daughter,maybe even younger, who he doest, abandon sleeping at home to go out thepark and try to have sex with girls. The says the it's very interestingcomment about his saughter that I si remember quite rimically when thecertain point is says when she's old enough, she can uprote to herself wichsort ov en compasses his character, which is in a way he's hypocrite. Butin another way, perhaps he really lives. This way you talked about the endingand, of course the very ending is when they close the the fence, which is abook end of where the first scene started and in away this shuts thevacation of like Ono Semitically sealsioff from the DA lives. In a way,this makes all of this love game sort. Ofallown everything is allowd.INIVICATION and it feels like Roma sort of criticizs that, but it also works sowonderfully because of the way he put portrays t the space because he's ableto. I know in the Te destart we talkedabout how rum is very secretive about his personal life and he justified thatin a way by saying that it allows him to go in public spaces without peoplenoticing him. So you sort of invisible, because no one knows them, so they cango in a public space with a very small crew and film, a scene there like at atthe beach- and it seems very lively because it is it's just put in a placeof that day- life where you staye to see scenes which lend so so much for Al.So a little just by using what it's there it's en ough gives. Ome has filmsa lot of production value, aeough life to have to spaces it inhabited likethat, and I think that's something. That's very wonderful about this fomthat Oll of his don Ko silly and fetalistic love games, theyre, sort ofpuntrated by the very beautiful amdience ofthi space and in a way, thehypocrisy as ti characters. It's jek opposed by the serene nature aroundthem, which is something that's quite wonderful and parts to sort ofelumlasting theme of Roma, where he es almost an obsession wih with nature,though he can't really, he can't really live there, he's not the guy. He likesto live in the city still, and that's that's an interesting conflict thatgoes for ASENI, fom, locoes or ets. His iline desire to go back to nature, butthen it's just to the farmification and in the wayts it's phonly. I think this igll scene with closingofto vication, also ends up with an ord fulfillment of the proverb where Marionat this point, Vei recalld, that everything hat's been happening hasbeen a complete FORC. Myon is still completely unaware that Henry sheakedon her. At this point he just takes, he...

...left, she doesn't know anything hasbeen going on Poulin at this point knows everything, and what actuallyhappened is that she turns to Bliene, and she says how about we both believethat it was the Oder's boyfriend that sheated since she says that she'llbelieve that it was pouline's young boyfriend and had sex, which a tat andPolinca believe it was enre that, as sex wit, listet and that way, both ofthem can be happy, and this seems like such interesting inclusion pro to theproverb, a waging tonge bite itself, because it does seem in a way thatMarion buys into this. She believes that this talk you more about thingsabout understanding. Things will result in pain, and I guess the question hasthan drive off is: Will it is the proverb true and to what extent is ittrue? Regarding the ending and the beginning,I think it's a nice gesture to say that this puting, who opend the gates andthen later on, closes it as if she is the one controlling everything. Thefact that she's one deciding went to open the fence and went to closeetwould indicate that maybe sheis the one that controlling all of that and who'sabove everything, which also wit tizing. Well, with her doing the truth, whyNoto doesn't and is also the person who lead through the anstevication ther isappoled to say there much longer, but Bollin helps Marion to end it and forthem to leave together, and I think these three first films of the Coblisand proverb Cyco prace a really interesting whole a whole where, in thefirst film, a man chases after a woman in the second, a woman chases after aman in a Turby, essentially see all of these realities. At wants. With a majorconfrontation between a young woman and all some O sleezy Showin istic man, itreally feels like a nice way to tie up or very first half of our comedies andproverbs episode. I really hope Ouven you listening to us and it you'll joinus again for part to where we will go through fullmoon in Paris, the GreenRay and, of course, my girlfriend's boyfriend, and also tie over all of thereccurring teams and Watteves of the series and see awhat. The finalcontradiction and the final resolution truly Wath, which I believe willsurprise you. Thank you for listening and joins thegain son. You have been listening to talkinginvige official PODCAST OF ICM FORUSCOM.

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